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Well I started my layout this summer and boy have I learned a lot.

For now I have a small reversing loop for testing. I'm using gargraves

track and switches.

For now I'm giving up on the gargrave switches. Mostly because of the 

opinions on the forum. The 2 switches in question are as I said going to be on the

main line doing reverse loop functions. So they will see a lot of action.

 

It's not going to be a very big layout, so 42" rad is as large as I am going to get.

I guess my question is,

Would I have less problems going with 072 switches then into a 042 curve

vs 042 switch into a 042 curve. My thinking is that the straighter the engine

is going through the switch the less problems I'll have.

Just a thought.

 

Thanks guy's

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I have some 031 RealTrax switches on my layout. I have no problem as long as I only buy engines and cars labeled for 031 curves. I can even run 18 inch passenger cars. I must admit it doesn't look very pretty going thru turns that tight with a long car. I have even altered the truck wheels on a Legacy recommended for I believe 045 turns. It works but again, not pretty. 

 

If you can, I'd say use the largest size turns and switches you can. I figured this out too late. There are some beautiful engines I can not run due to turn size. Trains just look better on large turns also.  It will be a huge project to change my switches and expensive but some day I will do it. This is definetly a case of bigger is better.  I watch eBay for large radius Real trax switches. Sometimes they go cheap.  I'm stocking up and when I have enough will tear out small turns and put larger ones in. I do run some 072 switches into 054 turns and that looks and works fine. 

What exactly are the problems you're experiencing with the current gargrave turnouts?

 

If you have a small reverse loop for testing, are you getting derailments coming through the turnout after going around the reverse loop?

 

Are the tracks leading in and out of the turnout on the same plane (level) with the turnout?

 

Are your engines shorting when the roller hits the frog of the turnout?

 

Switching to a larger radius turnout won't necessarily fix these problems.

More information would be helpful.

 

Bruce

I have 2 Wyes made with O-72 Wye switches immediately into O-54 curves, no problems.

 

As Bruce says, many switch issues are not the switch but the mounting.

Switch and all connected track for at least the length of your longest engine MUST be level with each other  to avoid problems.

All my derailments have been isolated down to this or the points not closing properly due to accumulated debris on the track.

I'm in a 170+ yr old basement, something is always falling on the layout.

Originally Posted by PRR Bruce:

What exactly are the problems you're experiencing with the current gargrave turnouts?

 

If you have a small reverse loop for testing, are you getting derailments coming through the turnout after going around the reverse loop?

 

Going straight through the switch is not a problem. Most of the time it's

coming into the switch from the curve side.

 

 

Are the tracks leading in and out of the turnout on the same plane (level) with the turnout?

 

It was a problem. I believe I have this issue solved. The switch I just replaced

had a very worn frog on it. I also added the guide on the outside rail as was disscussed here on OGR. ( the wire tie trick ) and also made sure everything

is level.

 

Are your engines shorting when the roller hits the frog of the turnout?

 

A couple problems actually. On my postwar 224 the front wheels randomly

derail. My BB1 and 0-6-0 switcher want to jump over the frog and continue straight.

Lately I've been running a Thomas engine and it seems to be ok.

K-line boxcab is not happy either. Though I hear that one is a common problem.

 

Switching to a larger radius turnout won't necessarily fix these problems.

More information would be helpful.

 

I guess right now I'm a little gun shy as well. my BB-1 is at Lionel right now getting

repaired. My biggest mistake is not having any protection , other than the circuit

breaker on the transformer. I won't do any more serious testing until I pick up

a 10 amp breaker and a trans orb device. This is probably something everyone

should do when first setting up a layout....

Live and learn I guess....

 

 

 

Bruce

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