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I have vaulted Ceilings in my common area. In the middle of it there is an 8ft high closet central wall. Last Year I put a pretty basic oval up there with 031 curves to run my 10th Anniversary Polar Express LionChief for Christmas. I would like to make a better layout but am pretty clueless on laying out a good design. I have included a Diagram of what I am working with and a wishlist for some help. Diagram is almost exactly to scale. Measurements are accurate.

 

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1. I can add molding around the center walls to gain another 2.5" to 3" all the way around it.

2. I would like to go back to at least O36 curves. The Polar Express runs fine on O31 but I also have an M7 Batman subway that doesn't and My Hogwarts would look odd on tight curves also

3. I have a lot of Fastrack so I would like to stick with that also keeping in mind it is all lionchief setups.

4. Some switchouts and sidings and some sort of a reversing loop wold be fun. The entire center of the closet area is solid wood with an outlet Approximately in the middle of it.

5. I am willing to build bridges over the hallway and a shelf on the opposing hallway. I have at least a foot of headspace over there.

6. Lastly I would of course like to maximize edge visibility as that is all 8 feet in the air.

 

Thank you uall in advance for your help. This is my stepping stone before I put a Shelf Track around my home theater in the basement.

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My shelf is not built yet so I can go to whatever width I need. The only place I need to build a shelf is on the opposing wall and two bridges to span the hallway gap. The big area in the center is fully flat and able to have track laid right on it. I am thinking of adding 2.5-3 inches in molding around that just to extend the width of the area.

 

I like the figure 8 idea. I would like to have a way for two trains to run at once without worrying about them colliding.

If you haven't put up the shelf, I highly recommend double tracking it.  You would need 10 inch boards.  Try to dowel them into each other for extra strength, especially the rounded corners100_0603.  I used 5 inch L brackets, mostly, to support mine.  I put them on top and special ordered a backdrop to hide them and improve the look.  I stained them to match the existing wood, sanded an sealed the bottom of each board for a finished look.

DD's layout would solve your problem of reversing loops, if you have the space for it.  The double track would allow for two trains running at all times.  

My two loops are about 100 feet, so I can run four engines on two tracks, using DCS to control their speed.  You may be able to slip in a small yard, like I did.  I bus wired it from the top, which hides the wires and the rope lights.  You would probably need LED strips to conserve space.  No reversing loops, but, the trains themselves (about 80) are the main attraction.

Hope these pics give you some useful ideas.  Good luck.

Jerry

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FWIW, I'm not a fan of the design I posted. My goal was to simply expand on your design and add the reversing capability. IMHO, the Figure 8 and turnouts are potential problems and I don't know if they're worth it. I prefer the dual mainline idea on a wider shelf, but I would raise the visible part of the inner run 2"-3" for visibility. Since the center part is open, it would be fairly easy to cut a 4x8 sheet of 3/4" plywood to size and put it up there. Crown molding could be added below the overhang to give it a nicer look if desired, but the entire layout could be built on the ground and then put in place.

I'm leaving in a few minutes to visit a layout near Prescott, so I don't have time right now to put together a design, but I will later after I get home this evening. The idea would be to use the existing pot shelf footprint and expand it so there is a 10" overhang all around. I don't know what purpose the lone siding serves other than to store a short train maybe or give you something to do by baking some cars in there for pickup/delivery. Running across the hallway extends the time it takes for trains to make a circuit and the unseen inside could be used for a small yard to store additional trains for some variety.

Sounds Good Dave. You are correct the single straight was merely a place to put either a short train or park one of the trains for showing off when they aren't running. The hallway is actually part of the open space kind of. North of the pot Shelf (Nice term btw) is the Living room. The Kitchen is SE and E (Its a Large Kitchen) The Dining room is NE. West is the Main Entry intersection for the house. South Side of the Hallway is the Landry room. So the whole area is traveled and viewed from often. A double track sounds like a great Idea.

Here's a couple of versions with dual runs. I don't have a ceiling layout, so I don't like the "yard" because you can't see it and that would seem to be problematic to me. I only included it for storage, but I have no idea how many engines and rolling stick you have or how many you want ready access to. This in done in SCARM so I could show some elevation changes, but I'm not sure about the visibility factor in the hallway, etc. My preference would be for the entire inner oval to be raised 3" instead of the opposite halves of both ovals raised 2" to reduce the incline. You can make it more complicated by adding crossovers between the 2 ovals or you can make it less complicated by reducing the number of turnouts.

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