What Glue To Use To Hold Screws

I doubt the screws will vibrate out, but you could dip them in white or carpenter's glue before driving them in.

DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT USING GLUE OF ANY TYPE, THEY WILL HOLD JUST FINE! AFTER BALLASTING ALL OF MY TRACK( APPROX. 400 FT.) I REMOVED ALL THE UNSIGHTLY SCREWS ,AND THE TRACK WILL NEVER MOVE!

Clifford,  is your track on the wood or is there any sound deadening or roadbed under the track ?

Matt, do you think white or carpenters glue will hold in the QuietBrace ?

Paul

It should, especially the carpenter's glue, but my point was that you shouldn't need it.

Also, Clifford's point is a good one. When you ballast the track, it's going to stay put without the screws unless you have some problems with your roadbed (which will give you problems if the track is screwed down to it.)

Would anybody put down ballast without gluing it down - with the thought that when

you dismantle the layout, the problems that arise when ballast is glued down ? ? ?

I hope you are using plywood under the quiet brace?  So, just get yourself some longer screws.  You may need to touch up the head of the screws with a black marker.  Therefore no glue needed.

Rick

Always glue down your ballast, lest it end up getting into your gears. Rather than a 50/50 water to white glue mix dribbled onto pre-wetted track with an eye dropper, we use a 75/25 water to white glue mix liberally applied to pre-wetted track. Much faster process with a solid result. See the video below with heckling by the peanut gallery.

Once ballast is glued in place, the way to remove it is to pour denatured alcohol over the track. That will eat through any glue (and paint) under or on the track and the track pulls right up. Use a fan to ventilate the room as the stuff has some really nice fumes.

We've used denatured alchol in track realignments. It will also go after the cork roadbed, but if you lay that out carefully, it will dry out. Personally, we just toss it and put down new cork.

Thanks Matt,  good info.

Paul

NEVER NEVER glue the screws when using Atlas O track.

NEVER

You can also use plain old water to loosen your ballast assuming you used white glue and water for your bonding solution.

NO GLUE !!!!

From what I've read, as soon as you put screws through the sound absorbing layer, the screws act as a conductor and bring the sound to the plywood which you're trying to avoid in the first place. It acts as the bridge on a guitar bringing the sound of the strings to the body of the guitar. I glue my track and road and don't use any screws. I will also ballast the track which further holds everything in place.

I used screws,the Quietbrace will hold the screws by itself.  If the screw is the right size it will not reach the plywood and transmit noise. The screw also does not need glue as others have mentioned.

Dale H

Don't glue in your screws! Why would you want to do that?