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Bill - it is tough to remove the snap in coupler pocket lid as the fit is very tight.  Here is how I do it.  I first remove the truck.  Then I use a needle  plier with one tip in the truck screw hole and the other on the vertical tab at the back of the pocket.  While squeezing the pliers I press downward on the coupler head.  The combination of pulling the tab rearward and the upward force of the coupler shank will cause the lid to pop free of the pockert.  Usually at this point the draft gear spring will go flying in to space. IMO a far better pocket design would use Kadee hole spacing and a screw on lid.  Hope this helps.

 

Ed Rappe

 

PS - I've found the latest AtlasO Kadee clone couplers work ok if I replace the overly strong AtlasO springs with Kadee ones.

Last edited by Keystoned Ed

Thanks, guys.  Good info.

 

I'll go the "destructive removal and trashing" route.   No need to add these to my parts bins (except the screws). 

 

 It's good to know that I wasn't missing something obvious and that these couplers are in fact difficult to disassemble.

 

I'll never understand why Atlas O chose to put their precious resources into designing and producing these couplers when we already had a defacto industry standard and a range of choices within that standard with Kaydee.  And to top it off several other excellent choices for those who want more scale fidelity than the Kadees offer.

Last edited by Austin Bill

I can get Atlas boxes apart a time or two, that tab distorts and eventually breaks the more times you open it.  Like Ed, I haven't had too bad an experience with the Atlas Kadee clones using Kadee springs but I haven't had the extensive experience that a lot of you have had.  The earlier couplers with a hidden spring are trash.

 

I think even Atlas considers any work on the couplers to require a replacement of the box.

Originally Posted by R Nelson:

my suggestion would be to cut the old boxes apart, then get rid of the Atlas couplers.  Using 1mm screws, you can install the Kadee couplers using the existing holes, without needing to drill new holes.   Just my suggestion.

But by using the holes originally provided by Atlas, the Kadee gear box & coupler assembly sticks out past the end sill of the freight car. 

I don't usually buy Atlas cars, but when I do, I buy 3 rail cars.  I can usually sell the truck /coupler assemblies for about $15.00 a pair. This covers the cost of Intermountain trucks ($2.50), Intermountain Wheel sets ($7.00) and the Kadee couplers ($3.50/pair).  All of those are Strasburg prices.  As a result the cars ride at the right height, the truck side frames do not grotesquely stick out, and by drilling my own holes (per Hot Water) the couplers are in a prototypical position. As a bonus, three rail cars sell for about $5.00 less.

Originally Posted by John Sethian:

I don't usually buy Atlas cars, but when I do, I buy 3 rail cars.  I can usually sell the truck /coupler assemblies for about $15.00 a pair. This covers the cost of Intermountain trucks ($2.50), Intermountain Wheel sets ($7.00) and the Kadee couplers ($3.50/pair).  All of those are Strasburg prices.  As a result the cars ride at the right height, the truck side frames do not grotesquely stick out, and by drilling my own holes (per Hot Water) the couplers are in a prototypical position. As a bonus, three rail cars sell for about $5.00 less.

And Thornton comes out of nowhere to nail the Triple Lindy!

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