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Hi All,
Thanks for all the help so far!  This picture is the space we have decided on using.  I don't know if I can squeeze in the 9' for the length, but I can do the 5' wide and 8 - 8.5' length.

My son wants to do a 2 level layout and the one that JHainer posted on the "what have you don't today" subject we like a lot, but I don't think we have the room.

I have the 1st level materials ready as I took apart what I did before to make it better.  I'm hoping to get some ideas.  The main things he wants are:
Tunnels - and I have seen some awesome ones on here, but I'm lost on how to build and make them look so nice inside and out, and also have the 2nd level run on top of them?

Decorations - what's good to order and it seems fun painting them or putting them together, but we've never tried.

Freight versus Passenger - the set I bought him for Xmas is this one at the link below, which is a freight, but he does like passenger cars it seems somewhat more or maybe he thinks it's more fun, but then he likes the action type freight cars, like the barrel "kicker" or something.  https://www.lionel.com/product...1F1D&PageID=2109

Any ideas on getting the 1st level going and the 2nd level would be appreciated!
I wanted to start a new thread now that we've learned at least what we want and where it's going.

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Father/son layout.... That is the life's blood of this hobby. So first things first. Paper and pencil.First- Supplies needed for the table and cost. Second- Design a track plan. Third- draw up the wiring for the track plan. Carpentry,drafting,electric and design. Aways have a plan,it most likely will change a bit as it moves along but thats what happens when you build a Model Railroad.  GOOD LOCK TO YOU AND YOUR SON.

OK, Tunnels, inside and out...

Inside is left open by most of us, at least after you get a foot or so inside.

this lets you get a grip on any derailed equipment in there from underneath or the back side or combo of both.

Outside and entryway is done many ways.

A portal surrounded by whatever mountain material you prefer always works.

Some folks stack broken ceiling tile and glue it up for shale looking rockface.

Trick on that: Always put in a slanted piece at the bottom to tilt the rock layers a bit, they are rarely perfectly level

Some prefer the Plaster cloth over cardboard or wadded newspaper method, that also makes interesting terrain and you can put foliage on it.

 

For the inside of the entryway, some folks crinkly up heavy foil and paint it black or dark brown. This gives a rough rock texture to the entry.

Some use foam they stomp on while laying on gravel or such for the same effect.

It's all up to your imagination. I have used an empty soda 12-pack (Fridge packs) taped to the back of the portal. It's cheap and if not overly durable, easily replaced.

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