@Conductor Earl posted:With all the build-up and excitement , it feels like Christmas eve. I am looking forward to seeing the big brown truck pulling in to my driveway.
Yah. Lots of us like that out there !!!! I’ve CB&Q, SP, and T&P scheduled to show up on Friday !!!! Can’t wait !!!
cheers !!!
@EMD posted:Jonathan,
Nice units , Thanks for posting - Was the CNJ Red/White (Liberty) scheme produced
Thanks! Only the as delivered scheme was produced. While in CNJ service the GP7P wore 4 paint schemes with the "Red Baron" or "Coast Guard" scheme being applied in 1972. I like that paint scheme as well. A little out of era for my 2 rail equipment, but still an attractive scheme. Not a lot of locomotives got that final scheme. Some RS3s, 1 SD40, and a handful of the GP7Ps as I recall.
The produced scheme known as the "Toothpaste" scheme was the longest lasting from 1952 to as late as 1964 on some units. CNJ simplified the scheme in the early 60's to remove the stripes when units were repainted. In the mid 60's CNJ adopted B&O colors for most of it's hood units while the cab units were being retired.
If there’s a second run, I’d be nice to see some CB&Q red birds!
Photographer credit K.B King Jr. Collection: Moss E. Hulsey.
I hope another run will be in the future. I need some SP geeps and SD-7’s or -9’s. I’m just finally getting back to a position where I can once again spend money on trains. Been stuck on the sidelines for 9 or 10 years and missed out on a lot of cool stuff. Some of it is rather hard to find now.
@Ryan Selvius posted:I hope another run will be in the future. I need some SP geeps and SD-7’s or -9’s. I’m just finally getting back to a position where I can once again spend money on trains. Been stuck on the sidelines for 9 or 10 years and missed out on a lot of cool stuff. Some of it is rather hard to find now.
I wouldn't be surprised, if Scott has enough standby reservations a second run of GP7/9 will be in the offering like the second run of F3
Cant wait for more photos. Only Jonathan so far.
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:If there’s a second run, I’d be nice to see some CB&Q red birds!
Photographer credit K.B King Jr. Collection: Moss E. Hulsey.
I’d be in for one too ! Right now though, the “Q” of offerings is pretty long - as are My reservations. And I’d like to see a second run of E5-6s before a run 2 GPs. I bet after giving the GPs a “rest” for awhile, we might eventually see a run 2.
Cheers !!!
I hope someone can post a picture of the Nickel Plate Road version
@Cogen1981 posted:I hope someone can post a picture of the Nickel Plate Road version
Me too. Actually Scott I think said there were 50 models - so I hope to see pix of ALL of them !!!!
@Former Member posted:2.) Based on Prrhorseshoecurve's response to my post on ph3 GP9's:
I asked Scott M. Re phaseIII GP9 and his answer was a staunch NO WAY! Even if we ask to throw in the GP9 "B"units for UP, PRR, PC, CR.
I know of at least 5 guys (myslef included) who reached out about the ph3 version and all got a firm no. I understand this run was apparently ph2 only, but I simply do not understand why ph3's cannot even be advertised to see the potential interest. In addition, I actually held off on purchasing the NKP GP7's and ph2 GP9's due to not knowing if the the ph2 torpedo boats and ph3 versions for NKP would ever be made.
All I am saying is it is hard to understand why certain models get advertised, then go into production, while some will not even be considered. I truly cannot understand the deciding factors, but to be 100% honest with you, it seems to me that it comes down to who is the most outspoken on this forum.
Hey, business is business, you guys are free to do what you think is best, but I'm just telling you: I went from a potential of having 8 different GP's to order to only getting 2 GP7's and no GP9's at all just as a result of how these decisions get made. I'll leave you with this: I still have quite a bit on preorder with Scott and I truly appreciate what you guys do for us in O scale - literally everything I have in B&O is from Sunset. But I think you guys are missing out on alot of potential sales because of how the decision process gets implemented.
PS. Those CNJ units are show stoppers BTW!
I'm now a bit confused, what exactly is a phase III GP9? I would have thought that the N&W versions which have 48" fans (and as shown on 3rdRail's advertisement) would be considered phase III. Yes, there are other things like vents on battery box doors and such.
Steve
Those CGW units look excellent!
GG1, my CGW is due in from UPS Friday. Should be a good weekend.
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:Looks phenomenal!
Doesn't it, though?
@sdmann posted:Just for some fun: Here's a picture of our warehouse with the 3R models matched up with invoices. We then go to each one, check again, put the UPS tags on them and slip the invoice in the box. Monday they went out. When someone calls to say they will be away and to hold their shipment, we have to walk up and down the isles of boxes to find their order. It's very tedious.
Don’t people realize they can have it held at UPS or FedEx? Sorry you have that extra hassle.
And great job BTW, that model Jonathan posted is beautiful.
I regret sitting this one out, hope Scott does another run, but I am not holding my breath.
How high is the pilot off the top of the rails?? ...Just concerned if these could handle moderate grade transitions
The Pictures look 100% awesome so far, keep them coming!!
@Bruk posted:Got my SP&S today. #150 & #152. Wish they had the all weather windows. But I can live without for now. Colors are spot on with the paints I use. These are my first 3rd Rail Diesels.
Very nice. A classic color scheme for sure. 👍
Mark in Oregon
Videos??? Any one, any one???
@rplst8 posted:Don’t people realize they can have it held at UPS or FedEx? Sorry you have that extra hassle.
And great job BTW, that model Jonathan posted is beautiful.
My UPS "my choice" wanted approx $5.00 or $10.00 upcharge depending on what option I chose to hold or change delivery place or time. Not really "my choice" as far as I can tell. I took Friday off from work to get locos and they changed the delivery date to today on me...I prefer fed ex as they allow you to divert it and hold package at a local drug store or dollar store for free. Just my experience in my area..
@I'd rather be ice fishing posted:My UPS "my choice" wanted approx $5.00 or $10.00 upcharge depending on what option I chose to hold or change delivery place or time. Not really "my choice" as far as I can tell. I took Friday off from work to get locos and they changed the delivery date to today on me...I prefer fed ex as they allow you to divert it and hold package at a local drug store or dollar store for free. Just my experience in my area..
Shipping Anything has gotten Really Expensive !!! They have their ways to 5 & 10 you. I’ve been told that many ups stores are franchise stores. I guess these “extras” are how they boost income.
A train store that I deal with preferentially uses FedEx. He’ll only use USPS or UPS if necessary - like requested by buyer. Their (FedEx) rates are less expensive. The buyer wins obviously but the seller does too if selling via eBay - the eBay take % nicks shipping as if it’s no different than the shipped item. I personally have moved to FedEx for shipping. Has become my personal preference.
Just saying ... Do your own research. 😬
Cheers !!!
I've never been upcharged by UPS for requesting a package be held at the facility.
@EscapeRocks posted:I've never been upcharged by UPS for requesting a package be held at the facility.
Me either.
Is this a thread on 3rdrail geeps or shipping costs/methods? I'm confused
@EscapeRocks posted:I've never been upcharged by UPS for requesting a package be held at the facility.
UPS does charge for holding packages. I believe is a one time charge per year unless you join their premium service. I’m not sure if it kicks in after a certain number of holds. I did have quite a few holds last year and was charged once.
Here is a quick photo my my SP GP-9. The real 5623 doesn’t have the dynamic break (don’t know if it ever did), so I will likely renumber it to something more appropriate. She’s a beauty none the less. Sorry for the poor lighting.
-Brian
@WinstonB posted:UPS does charge for holding packages. I believe is a one time charge per year unless you join their premium service. I’m not sure if it kicks in after a certain number of holds. I did have quite a few holds last year and was charged once.
I have never been charged for a hold at the facility, but I have been charged to redirect and hold for pickup at the UPS store.
-Brian
@WinstonB posted:UPS does charge for holding packages. I believe is a one time charge per year unless you join their premium service. I’m not sure if it kicks in after a certain number of holds. I did have quite a few holds last year and was charged once.
When I use UPS and have it delivered to my local UPS store, the UPS store charges me $8.00 per package for a "storage" charge.
My GP9 is being delivered to my house, which I didn't think I asked for, but that's that. The shipping notice says signature required, so I'll have to hang around the house all day Friday and watch for the truck, or else the Geep starts making laps on the UPS truck until I happen to catch it.
@superwarp1 posted:Is this a thread on 3rdrail geeps or shipping costs/methods? I'm confused
This Golden Book, Tootle, a childhood favorite of mine, explains how distractions will tend to get us off track.
When I was asked to help Dad with a project, chores, repair of my this-and-that, et alia, ...and my mind and/or body would wander off elsewhere for a brief moment..., it was "HEY, TOOTLE!! Over here!! Focus!!"
At that age it was always easy to learn lessons about life when it was presented in a choo-choo manner! After all, I was totally hooked by then...often to distraction.
And here we are, 70+ years later....
Meanwhile, 'back at the ranch'.....I believe the subject is geeps. Love the pics! They're all gorgeous!
KD
@Valpac posted:Here is a quick photo my my SP GP-9. The real 5623 doesn’t have the dynamic break (don’t know if it ever did), so I will likely renumber it to something more appropriate. She’s a beauty none the less. Sorry for the poor lighting.
-Brian
Seems like an expensive mistake...
@Valpac posted:Here is a quick photo my my SP GP-9. The real 5623 doesn’t have the dynamic break (don’t know if it ever did), so I will likely renumber it to something more appropriate. She’s a beauty none the less. Sorry for the poor lighting.
-Brian
There's a lot about 5623 on the net. It was a dual purpose freight/passenger, no dynamic brake but it had torpedo tubes. It was also preserved, restored, and is in use on a tourist railroad.
@CentralFan1976 posted:Seems like an expensive mistake...
Only need to change one digit... https://railpictures.net/photo/584590/
And here's one with the over/under lettering - https://railpictures.net/photo/642150/
Here's another with only a one digit change, and has over/under lettering - https://railpictures.net/photo/642397/
@rplst8 posted:Only need to change one digit... https://railpictures.net/photo/584590/
And here's one with the over/under lettering - https://railpictures.net/photo/642150/
Here's another with only a one digit change, and has over/under lettering - https://railpictures.net/photo/642397/
It’s not one digit, it’s one digit, SIX times.
That’s only assuming the numberboards don’t need to be completely redone.
I’m with Mario...why is this a user fix?
If you want service, don't complain here, email me. I don't do customer service from the forum.
Scott Mann
1. Phase III requires an additional shell mold ($$$$) for the larger radiator fans.
2. Hold is many times a financial decision as much as who will be where when. I get many of my things from financial holds that end up being cancellations.
3. Blame Jonathan/us for the SP passenger units being freight units. WE, the reviewers, probably screwed up creating the matrix which is supposed to differentiate. Unless, SP passenger units were one of the variations the builder said no to and so an assumption was made, by who knows who, to do freight units. Yeah, that stuff happens and nobody knows it until they are here. Very frustrating on all sides.
Well, I got my C&NW Geep with the torpedo tubes on top. Beautifully done as always! No problems, complaints or gripes. Guys, you killed it.
Dick
@CBQer posted:Well, I got my C&NW Geep with the torpedo tubes on top. Beautifully done as always! No problems, complaints or gripes. Guys, you killed it.
Dick
Got pics to post [office]?
Scott
I'm sincerely happy you guys tried to do my GTW GP9's even though there were not enough orders, but I'm sorry to say they're terrible.
I mean, not even close.
Please know my criticism below is not personal.
Here's a photo of a RedCaboose model approved by the railroad in the 1990s alongside your model (front)
Black roof? No. Never.
The artwork for the logo is awful...
Wrong red and number boards
Prototype refrences
I'm not angry Scott, just really disappointed.
I'm going to need a refund or a professional re-paint.
let me know what you can do.
If you google GT GP9s I see black cab roofs on several engines, but who am I to judge.
https://www.google.com/search?...imgrc=vn-KxCB0KhU_2M
Probably painted that way to protect against rust in their later years. I can't post those pictures here due to IP rules but I put the link up there. The return policy is in your paperwork. There were only 3 made, and I have someone waiting for one to become available. I am sorry your not happy with how we chose to paint them. But I am sure we can find a good home for her.
I am thinking the gp7 is a fantasy scheme? Can any c&o experts chime in? I think the gp9 looks good...but the 7 floored me with the dynamic brakes and low number, a google search did not help me..
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