@RickO posted:All this hemming and hawwing over paint ,grab irons, fans and getting it out of the box.
No one knows if they even run ....
Found this video on YouTube this morning.
PRR Afternoon local
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@Hot Water posted:Just my opinion but, I would much rather see lots of good quality close-up photos instead of videos. With videos, the model moves past a hand-held camera so fast, the details get lost.
That's an excellent point, good photos are absolutely essential for evaluating model quality. But sounds are important to me, as well as the general "feel" of the locomotive running.
Thanks for posting the videos guys.
@0-Gauge CJ posted:That's an excellent point, good photos are absolutely essential for evaluating model quality. But sounds are important to me, as well as the general "feel" of the locomotive running.
I agree up to a point. Most people taking the videos just love to lay on the horn or whistle to point where you can't hear the engine running! 
Here are some photos. I am not going to get into the paint and numbering application debates here. Overall I am impressed with the quality of my first 3rd rail locomotives.
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My only observation is- we are in the information age- why is it so hard to show photo on website of version produced? Or updated to that once decided upon?
My CNW GP7 showed up as steam generator passenger version with HEP blisters on rear of hood. I can fix fuel/water tank and remove roof air tanks but HEP blisters are part of shell.
Great model-unit not what shown. Only 9 out of 125 CNW owned GP7s were this version. How does this get chosen-would guess many would be surprised. Not what I thought I bought...
Same withSD40-2 project T-2s not even shown-think this hurts orders-I now added late.... I know staff is thin but IT guys are out there- and a college kid could do it if given proper photos.
Scott is the best to deal with in O scale- having direct contact with him is invaluable. Just some observations.
Lastly- a photo archive of past models produced would be a great sales tool-in my opinion.
Glad to hear comments but if it is just snarky stuff save it. I'm sure the artillery will be incoming shortly.
@Alco244 posted:Lastly- a photo archive of past models produced would be a great sales tool-in my opinion.
I couldn’t agree more! I’ve been working with the help of others contributions of information to do just that. I started with the GGD names trains and some of the E &F units. Below is a link to my page on the GGD Sunset Limited and E7’s. If you click the menu button you will find my own archive info on many GGD/Sunset offerings. Some have photos, some are partially complete; it’s a work in progress. Likewise, if you have any info regarding specific name/number information that is missing, I will be happy to add it. I have worked on and off on this as time has allowed. I have not bothered Scott with it as he is busy making trains. Anyone and everyone’s contributions are appreciated.
Let's see Lionel or MTH make this without butchering it... If it wasn't for Scott I'd be in HO, period.
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@SANTIAGOP23 posted:
Let's see Lionel or MTH make this without butchering it... If it wasn't for Scott I'd be in HO, period.
Each time I see these beauties, I so regret passing on these beauties !!! 😖😖😖☹️
I really wanted a TA as it is unique but now also seeing the wonderful observation car ......... 😣😖😣😖
@BigJohn&theWork posted:I couldn’t agree more! I’ve been working with the help of others contributions of information to do just that. I started with the GGD names trains and some of the E &F units. Below is a link to my page on the GGD Sunset Limited and E7’s. If you click the menu button you will find my own archive info on many GGD/Sunset offerings. Some have photos, some are partially complete; it’s a work in progress. Likewise, if you have any info regarding specific name/number information that is missing, I will be happy to add it. I have worked on and off on this as time has allowed. I have not bothered Scott with it as he is busy making trains. Anyone and everyone’s contributions are appreciated.
https://bigjohnsbigtrainsale.com/sp-sunset-limited
https://bigjohnsbigtrainsale.com/emd-e7s
Yes check it out. It’s a good reference for info and worth helping it grow !!!
Cheers
@TrainBub posted:Each time I see these beauties, I so regret passing on these beauties !!! 😖😖😖☹️
I really wanted a TA as it is unique but now also seeing the wonderful observation car ......... 😣😖😣😖
I think Caboose Stop Hobbies in Iowa still has a 3 rail set. Give Merlyn a call. 319-277-1754
Scott may still have a set with 4 cars. We had the set on display at York about 2 years ago and I sent it back to him several weeks ago. It is 3 rail. Never run.
Try Merlyn at Caboose Stop as I know Scott wants Merlyn to sell his first.
Just thought I would bring this to your attention. Mine hasn't arrived but a friend picked his up yesterday and notice this problem which is supposed to be on ALL of this run of GP-9's. I honestly don't see how something this large could be missed. 
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Not to me. Easy fix for the more particular crowd.
@up148 posted:Just thought I would bring this to your attention. Mine hasn't arrived but a friend picked his up yesterday and notice this problem which is supposed to be on ALL of this run of GP-9's. I honestly don't see how something this large could be missed.
We've already gotten a personal apology from Scott, AND he's said their taking care of the missing stanchions. What else do you want?
I am a huge fan of Scott and the way he does business --his models are tops especially his passenger sets --the 1938 and 1947 20th Century sets are works of art as is the Daylight , Powhattan arrow and Congressional. I just received my 1938 super chief and cant wait to open the box. His E6 and E8 diesels I am very happy with. my only gripe is the glue they use seems not to last --lot of loose figures and window panes --fixable but a pain taking cars apart. I have a hunch the upcoming B&O EA and SF E1 diesels will be masterpieces.
@rplst8 posted:We've already gotten a personal apology from Scott, AND he's said their taking care of the missing stanchions. What else do you want?
Sorry, I'm a 2R guy and saw nothing posted about this issue on the 2R forum. I didn't read this entire thread and saw nothing, so that's why I posted. Scott has always been a stand up guy, so I expected he would take care of it. 
My New Haven GP9 just arrived! Thrilled! Thanks scott! Ill post a video later
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Hey Folks,
Yea, I know, we missed a hand rail stanchion in our entire design and checking process. It's always the missing part you can't see.
If it was in the wrong place, wrong color or crooked, it's very easy to spot. But a missing detail, that can be illusive. No excuse, just happens from time to time.
So we are making, ONE stanchion for every model produced and will mail them to customers and dealers, in a few months.
The plan is for them to slip over the railing, and you glue the bottom in place. Make sure you do it straight or it will look worse than if it were missing. 
You don't have to ask for one. I will mail one to every customer and dealer.
Wow, that NH Geep looks great on the track.
Cheers,
Scott Mann
Opened my Cotton Belt today, what a beauty! THANKS, Scott. I found a straight piece of metal in the wrapping. After some searching I discovered it was the engineer's arm rest super glue to the rescue. Thanks again, Scott.
@scott5011 posted:Opened my Cotton Belt today, what a beauty! THANKS, Scott. I found a straight piece of metal in the wrapping. After some searching I discovered it was the engineer's arm rest super glue to the rescue. Thanks again, Scott.
Tried to get a Cotton Belt with a late standby. No Go 😣. All accounted for. Oh well. I’m also quite pleased with my SP.
CHEERS !!!
A couple of quick pics of my B&O GP-7 overall I’m really impressed. It’s absolutely beautiful! 3R with pilots & kadees installed.
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I started to convert my PRR GP7 to DCS. The good news: it already has an 8 ohm speaker, properly baffled. The challenge: No flywheel. I am working on a fix and will post photos in another thread when done.
If you install the scale couplers on a 3 rail model, will it still handle 0-72 curves when coupled to a train?
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
A couple of quick pics of my B&O GP-7 overall I’m really impressed. It’s absolutely beautiful! 3R with pilots & kadees installed.
Looks awesome DJ! Great paint scheme.
Looks like the MU hoses and details still need to be installed on the pilot
Sent pics of the full scale pilot conversation if possible.
@Cogen1981 posted:Looks awesome DJ! Great paint scheme.
Looks like the MU hoses and details still need to be installed on the pilot
Sent pics of the full scale pilot conversation if possible.
The MU hoses were not included with any of the 3R models. I emailed Scott & he said that he will send them out in a couple of months. (Probably with the missing handrail stantion) and yes to a question asked above. The engine still operated on 072 with the kadees installed.
Some other observations. No engineer figures, so I’ll have to get my own & install. Also the B&O torpedo geeps were set up for long hood forward operation. I’ll eventually open up the geep & set it up for long hood forward operation. It would have been nice if it was delivered from the factory with all of the above already set up, but it’s not hard to do myself and I my not letting it spoil my fun. Spectacular model!!
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:The MU hoses were not included with any of the 3R models. I emailed Scott & he said that he will send them out in a couple of months. (Probably with the missing handrail stantion) and yes to a question asked above. The engine still operated on 072 with the kadees installed.
Some other observations. No engineer figures, so I’ll have to get my own & install. Also the B&O torpedo geeps were set up for long hood forward operation. I’ll eventually open up the geep & set it up for long hood forward operation. It would have been nice if it was delivered from the factory with all of the above already set up, but it’s not hard to do myself and I my not letting it spoil my fun. Spectacular model!!
Dj, I want to make the same changes with figures and change my PRR GP7 to long hood forward. I assume the cabin can be flipped. How would you do the electronics?
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:The MU hoses were not included with any of the 3R models. I emailed Scott & he said that he will send them out in a couple of months. (Probably with the missing handrail stantion) and yes to a question asked above. The engine still operated on 072 with the kadees installed.
Some other observations. No engineer figures, so I’ll have to get my own & install. Also the B&O torpedo geeps were set up for long hood forward operation. I’ll eventually open up the geep & set it up for long hood forward operation. It would have been nice if it was delivered from the factory with all of the above already set up, but it’s not hard to do myself and I my not letting it spoil my fun. Spectacular model!!
Thanks for you response DJ. Again, great looking model. Kicking myself for not getting in on this run, but committed the funds to the next F3 and SD40-2 run.
Having crew figures seems like a standard feature on a high end locomotive. I wonder if that was intentional? Did Scott give you input on that?
@WinstonB posted:Dj, I want to make the same changes with figures and change my PRR GP7 to long hood forward. I assume the cabin can be flipped. How would you do the electronics?
Borrowing Bruk's photo from page 4, under the red arrow, the two terminals on the right of this row, reverse the red and blue wires.
The cab interior cannot be flipped. I unscrewed everything, drilled new holes and moved it diagonally across the cab. There was a box originally on the conductor's side, I assume to represent a cab heater, I left it out as the hump in the floor for the can motor doesn't allow you to put it in it's opposite corner. You couldn't really see it through the cab window anyway. For the N&W ones it would be sweet to be able to source duplicates for dual control stands.
Steve
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@John Sethian posted:I started to convert my PRR GP7 to DCS. The good news: it already has an 8 ohm speaker, properly baffled. The challenge: No flywheel. I am working on a fix and will post photos in another thread when done.
I would be very interested in this thread, re: flywheel. Please let me know when it's up or where it is.
Guys,
If you send me a plan view drawing of a flipped cab interior, I can ask design to see how it can be done. Where are the seats? Where is the equipment?
The system is in place to make things along with productions.
Scott
I do believe that most long hood forward locomotives have dual cab controls.
First of all I would like to thank Scott and his entire team for putting together another great project and second of all I'd like to thank every single three rail guy that supports Scott because without you guys us 2 rail guys wouldn't have all of this fantastic stuff
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@L & N posted:Borrowing Bruk's photo from page 4, under the red arrow, the two terminals on the right of this row, reverse the red and blue wires.
The cab interior cannot be flipped. I unscrewed everything, drilled new holes and moved it diagonally across the cab. There was a box originally on the conductor's side, I assume to represent a cab heater, I left it out as the hump in the floor for the can motor doesn't allow you to put it in it's opposite corner. You couldn't really see it through the cab window anyway. For the N&W ones it would be sweet to be able to source duplicates for dual control stands.
Steve
If its the barrel controller, you have to look out for kemtron o scale parts, esp on da bay.
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
I was able to order this B&O from 3rd rail website earlier in the week.
Looking forward to running this on my layout.
Any suggestions for where to obtain crew figures for the engine?
@strugglinman posted:I was able to order this B&O from 3rd rail website earlier in the week.
Very nice. It is a GP7 by the way.
Looking forward to running this on my layout.
I can certainly see why.
Any suggestions for where to obtain crew figures for the engine?
I always tried to use Artista figures, in my locomotives, and throughout the layout.
DJ'sOguagetrains,
That actually may have been the one I ordered. I decided against it because after ordering I realized the engine was used for passenger service. Looks great though.
Dave
