A 3rd rail sunset engine with ERR cruise and TMCC/Railsounds ,how does it work and what's needed to operate the engine

All the latest models from Sunset/3rd Rail now come with ERR "Cruise Commander", and operate just like any other TMCC equipped model. The latest E7 diesels from Golden Gate Depot also are equipped with ERR, and again operated like any other model equipped with TMCC.

I have also found the Sunset/3rd Rail steam models, previously equipped with Train America Studios EOB system, operate even better under Legacy.

I'm fairly certain that a TMCC engine won't run with an MTH Remote Commander.  You'd need a TMCC/Legacy system or just a regular conventional transformer.

I would recommend you contact Marty Fitzhenry who  could provide very definitive suggestions for you.  Jim

Lionel has licensed TMCC for use by Sunset/3rd Rail, Weaver, and Atlas. The easiest, and least expensive way would be to find a used,or on rare occassion new Lionel TMCC command set 6-12969. You could probably get one from a forum member and these show up often on ebay. If you ever think you might consider any of Lionels legacy offerings in the future you may want to consider a Legacy system. Legacy simply put is TMCC with far more "bells and whistles."

You cannot operate TMCC or Legacy engines with the DCS Remote Commander.  You can operate them with the full DCS system (although some Legacy features cannot be accessed with DCS).

You will still need a tmcc base to operate via DCS.

hello guys and gals........

 So  i would need the lionel 6-12969 TMCC command set to operate the ERR cruise, TMCC/Railsound  3rd rail sunset engine is that correct ?

the woman who loves toy trains

Tiffany

You can always run the engine conventionally.  That's the way I run my new 3rd Rail T-3.

Jim

Correct. You can run it conventionally as Jim mentioned, but I figured you were interested in "command control" seeing as you run your challenger via the remote commander.

Plus, you better have big curves, 072 minimum, if you plan on purchasing any of the larger Sunset/3rd Rail steam locomotive models. Even my SP MT class mountain needs 072 minimum curves, and the Sp 4-10-2, C&O T-1 2-10-4, and CB&Q M4a 2-10-4s are another story.

hello guys and gals...........

Interesting, i checked the lionel web-site and  didn't show the pictures of 6-12969 TMCC command set but just the outside box of it for 169.99.  Is that good price ?

the woman who loves toy trains

Tiffany

I believe its discontinued so its something you'd have to look for on ebay or the forum

Alex is correct, these have been replaced by the Legacy system. Heres one for sale from a forum member, not sure if its still availablehttps://ogrforum.com/d.../lastReply#lastReply

The command base  should be good to go even used.   The Cab-1 remotes if used a lot will show wear on the push button operations.  I believe most of the new in the box still available would be the set which is the Command base, Command base power supply, and the Cab1 remote.  There is a serial port on the Command base that would have to be connected to an MTH TIU with another cable if to be used with DCS.

Command base is lower right corner Green dot item.

Older picture of my train buddy learning Cab1.  There were key pad overlays that prompted the key functions, one for Diesel and one for Steam. The owners manual for an ERR equiped engine should also have instructions related to the ERR board which can be slightly different.   Cab 1s do not have a view screen. 

Summer almost over, back to school next week.  I can't believe how he has grown.

I think the place to look for the TMCC command base is eBay, assuming that none are available in the forum here.  You probably don't want the remote, that just runs up the cost, and it won't control DCS stuff.

Here's a Trainmaster Command Base on eBay.

I just bought a TMCC command set on the Bay for around $140, brand new in the box. That was an auction price, not a Buy it Now. Also, Forum member Shawn Chronister lists one at a good price on his new website, http://www.theattickc.com/

Great price on the whole set NIB, $120. NIB Trainmaster set for $120

Tiffany,

    My club the Black Diamond Society of Model Engineers has a TMCC Command Set in our company store. I am not sure of the exact price but am sure its no more than $100 give or take a few bucks. Look for my email address in my profile if your interested send me an email and we can work out the details.

    We bought it throuh a collection and I understand it did not have a lot of use.

JohnB

Remember that you don't NEED any of this stuff to operate the locomotive. ALL TMCC locomotives will operate just fine in conventional mode with an ordinary transformer, just like the locomotives you already have in your roster.

You only need the command equipment if you want to operate it in COMMAND mode.

If you want to operate it in conventional mode, just like your other locomotives, just put it on the track and run it like all your other locomotives.

It really is that simple.

True, but you don't get electrocouplers or crew talk.  Also, if you want to run the DCS locomotives and these on the same track at the same time, you can't run them in conventional mode.

Of course, if Tiffany is strictly a conventional operator, running these conventional is probably the way to go.

Hello guys and gals...........

I probably go "conventional control" for now until able to find the #6-12969 tmcc set.

the woman who loves toy trains

Tiffany