Dan
That is precisely the type of car I am referring to. Pacific Car and Foundry built hundreds of cars like that for large and small logging outfits. Many were built as 42 footers. Weyerhaeuser stretched theirs to 44 feet to add end steps and allow them to meet safety requirements to operate on common carrier rails. It was easy to stretch a car when the center sill was wooden and you owned saw mills.
How does the running gear on these engines hold up. Interesting drive mechanism with some small gears transfering power from the motor worm to the driving shafts?
Anyone have one of the original PS-1 versions that has been used heavily?
Dave, just because you are a small business owner doesn't mean you understand being a small business owner in the model train business.
As far as MSRP, it is ok for a customer who gets a DAP set and because the market is willing to pay 2X MSRP that is what he sells it for, but a dealer who add 10% to push a margin to 30% or cover the shipping and Credit Card fee on an item is "unscrupulous"?
Sometimes the dealer helps the customer who needs help; and then there are the customers who help the dealer. I have found it to be a 2 way street in most cases. G
Ted, doubtless you know Pacific Car and Foundary is now Paccar---one of the largest manufacturers of diesel semi's in the world! Still headquartered in Bellevue,WA and run by a fourth generation family member. They are public and financially extremely strong...
Dave, just because you are a small business owner doesn't mean you understand being a small business owner in the model train business.
As far as MSRP, it is ok for a customer who gets a DAP set and because the market is willing to pay 2X MSRP that is what he sells it for, but a dealer who add 10% to push a margin to 30% or cover the shipping and Credit Card fee on an item is "unscrupulous"?
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Nope, 2X MSRP is a big joke -- especially at the retail level in the year in which special stuff like a DAP item is delivered. Let's not take this thread too far off-topic debating the issue, as this could be a topic all too itself.
Suffice it to say, I was simply alerting folks here NOT to pay over-MSRP for logging locomotives just because MTH is currently experiencing delays delivering their steam locomotive products. Within a year or so, everything may be "back to normal" or so with respect to supply levels, so there's no need to contribute to the feeding frenzy over-zealous dealers attempt to create with these tactics. But if I needed examples to prove my point further, the market is filled with rather ho-hum B-units and passenger set add-ons (i.e., dining cars, dome cars, etc...) that were declared "VERY RARE" in their year of issue by some dealers (albeit a small number thankfully) -- just to jack up their prices and make a quick buck. I can't think of ANY of those so-called "VERY RARE" items that are worth anything more than a casual glance nowadays. So why waste your money??? 
David
Dave, Better stated, without labeling.
Can anyone talk to the durability of these drive trains? Thanks, G
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