Through some conversations with fellow forum member RJR, I am just trying too hard in making a fair layout in 4x8. I like a couple of trains running with a little switching possible. A few I liked, just doesn't cut it. I found one on the Atlas site, but since is uses curves that are not the same as my tubular and Gargraves, I don't know if it would work. Here is the plan and I wonder if your SCARM experts can make it work. It is the O26 plan on the Atlas site here http://www.atlaso.com/O%203Rai...%20web/pages/O26.htm. I thank you so much for your assistance.