Buy anything cool lately?

Still trying to do train stuff but truck takes priority.   purchased  Pulse Tech 735x150 24v Battery Maintenance Military Truck ,generator  to keep my batteries charged Ok this is cool

Ok the not so cool stuff 2 x GM TYPE ISOLATED GROUND MILITARY VEHICLE CUCV 12 VOLT 100 AMP ALTERNATOR when it rains it pores.

I came across this boxcar and had to purchase it! I have been looking for the yellow version of this car for about five years.    When my dad got laid off back in the 80's he took a contract with this company to help build a set of real train cars for an amusement park in Canada.  They had some promotional KMT cars manufactured for employees at some point.  I received the orange car from him.   I finally found the yellow version!

Before his health deteriorated I asked him enough questions about the real train cars to track them down. Thanks to a few emails with forum members,  and few emails to various parks,  I was able to track the actual cars to Dorney Park and the Omaha zoo. I hope to take a trip to one of those locations this summer.

Lately it has been parts, batteries traction tires speaker etc.  Although I do have a Lionel news stand on order and I am pretty jazzed about that.

D&H 65 posted:

....Just missed flying these (our squadron had just upgraded to Hueys)......

I flew Hueys myself, so did Dad.  It was a great father/son moment when we flew together once.

I had the honor of flying with the some of the last Vietnam Huey pilots.  Loved every minute of it.

To this day, nothing beats the "Sound of Freedom"

To compliment my Milwaukee Road F-7 (Weaver brass) I added this A class Atlantic.  The Overland model appears to be  1960's or 70's vintage, judging by the primitive drive train.  A future repaint will take a bit of skill and a pair of big ones.

brwebster posted:

To compliment my Milwaukee Road F-7 (Weaver brass) I added this A class Atlantic.  The Overland model appears to be  1960's or 70's vintage, judging by the primitive drive train.  A future repaint will take a bit of skill and a pair of big ones.

 

That's really cool, Is it conventional or command?

Ok finally some cool stuff. About a month ago I bought a pair of Atlas GN GP35s off the Bay. With all that I had going on I pulled the trigger and bought these as one rarely ever show up on Ebay and two because I was stupid enough to let the last ones that showed up back in I think October to get away.

Then this popped and grabbed this: Atlas GN Extended Vision Cab which is correct as all the GN Extended Vision Cabs were delivered in the BSB scheme.

Don't remember if I posted these

but added to my herd of Zebras. Atlas ATSF GP9( now I have all three ) and RSD7/15 ( and now have both TMCC versions)

And  Lionel GN U33C from a forum member

Ok Cool for me

A few months ago I went through all my train stuff and decided I had enough trains and plenty of projects to complete. No new trains for a while. Then I go to a small local train show and found this Weaver Army Transportation Corps Consolidation:

Fantastic price, cruise control equipped, and would look perfect with my WWII troop train so it came home with me. Runs great, my only complaint is the sound quality is poor and the speaker is going to have to be replaced.

Ken

#KEN, she's a beauty! nice find..... happy trails to ya

Today I went back down to pick up my Menards Morton salt building. I opened it as soon as I got home. I lit it up and all I can say is "WOW". Totally happy with it...................Paul

Picked this Cragstan VINTAGE 1950s METAL CAP FIRED ARMY CANNON - JAPAN    up at the meadowlands flea market last Saturday for $5.00.
 This cannon is a little to wide for Prewar O gauge so I think I will use it on a standard gauge flat car.
Will make a wood type wheel cocks platform that mounts on the flat car to hold the cannon in place.
Then to make this more of a standard gauge toy like flat car, I will stack some small cap boxes and shells/bullets  (that I have to make) on the flats card as  a extra supplies for the cannon.

If I do not use the flat car idea, I always could make one on my tin Hallmark houses a American Legion Hall with a cannon out front.

The quarter is just for cannon dimensions.

I also saw the box for the cannon on eBay (did not buy just copied the pictures).

I have a couple of old cannons like that but have them in a small park. Many years ago I cast an American tank out of lead and have it on the layout as a war memorial.

Yes, yes I did 

Gee, Matt, what did you get today?

Matt Makens posted:

Yes, yes I did 

Ok, what?

Garrett76 posted:

Garrett76 posted:

I found this giant 4' x 6' movie poster that was originally displayed in a city bus shelter.  I confess I've never seen the movie and don't intend to... the animation creeps me out (uncanny valley).  Anyway, it's a cool image and will definitely be a conversation piece once I get my dedicated train room going in a few years

I counted my chicken before it hatched...  the post office delivered a battered package which was opened and no poster inside.  D--- you USPS!!!

"I confess I've never seen the movie and don't intend to"

Ah...the fickle finger of fate! Or, was it the dreaded "Announcer's Curse"?
Looks like a movie ain't all you'll never see!

I received a big order of GarGraves track today.  Big to me, that is!

Mark Boyce posted:

I received a big order of GarGraves track today.  Big to me, that is!

Any track for the new layout is a "big order"   It's like proposing to your girl....you've officially made a serious commitment.  Now the fun begins, Mark.

Bruce

I'm going to keep this one to myself

Spill the beans, Matt.

Shut it Jon

Sometimes I gamble when it comes to purchases.  Case in point....a Dallee deluxe steam sound system that had been previously installed.  As is, no guarantee for $25.  The polyphonic system produces all the usual steam loco sounds through 3 channels.   2 of the 3 existing speakers were trash so I swapped them all out for matching enclosed 8 ohm, 2 watt cubes.  While most of the wiring harness existed, the 8 wire tether was missing.  I cobbled one together ( bottom center ) which I hope speeds some future installation.  I plugged in the 9V power and prayed while flipping the on switch.  The idle sounds came to life, and adding a chuff switch got them activated too.

Along with the instructions there was an original bill of sale, which included a mysteriously missing $99 Locomatic Controller that totaled just north of $600

Bruce

Matt Makens posted:

Shut it Jon

Don't worry, Matt. Your secret is safe with me, but it's pretty cool. I'm surprised you can hold it in....

Yeah, sometimes it's just better that way

I get it, Matt. Perhaps when you take delivery...

brwebster posted:

To compliment my Milwaukee Road F-7 (Weaver brass) I added this A class Atlantic.  The Overland model appears to be  1960's or 70's vintage, judging by the primitive drive train.  A future repaint will take a bit of skill and a pair of big ones.

 

Very nice. 

Bought a new Lionel version ( Atlantic) from ebay a few months ago along with matching 18" aluminum passenger cars.  However, they were rib sided as opposed to smooth sided with the beaver tail observation car that goes with the Atlantic.   The rib sided versions were made for the F7 Milwaukee Road Hudson which came along about 3 years later.

Has Rail Sounds 5 and smokes like a champ which surprised me.

Didn't know that anyone else made this engine in O gauge.

daylight posted:

brwebster posted:

To compliment my Milwaukee Road F-7 (Weaver brass) I added this A class Atlantic.  The Overland model appears to be  1960's or 70's vintage, judging by the primitive drive train.  A future repaint will take a bit of skill and a pair of big ones.

 

Very nice. 

 

Bought a new Lionel version ( Atlantic) from ebay a few months ago along with matching 18" aluminum passenger cars.  However, they were rib sided as opposed to smooth sided with the beaver tail observation car that goes with the Atlantic.   The rib sided versions were made for the F7 Milwaukee Road Hudson which came along about 3 years later.

Has Rail Sounds 5 and smokes like a champ which surprised me.

Didn't know that anyone else made this engine in O gauge.

 

Incorrect. The rib-sided cars Lionel modeled in its 2006 release were based on the cars the Milwaukee Road began introducing in 1936, one year after unveiling the Hiawatha Atlantics. Those four locomotives pulled those cars until the Hudsons were introduced. Source: "The Hiawatha Story" by Jim Scribbins, the authoritative author on all things Milwaukee Road from the Hiawatha era to the 1970s.

Also, the Hiawatha Atlantic has been rendered four other times in O gauge: Lionel's 1937 release, Lionel's 1988 release, Weaver's 2003 release, and Lionel's 2006 release. I was unaware of this Overland model.

Mr. Brown dropped off three more Weaver TOFC's I was lucky to find. Pics of the new additions......Paul

I had been looking for both these for a long time.  Amazingly, the same fellow had them for sale and at a nice price also.  My two favorite railroads.

MTH Western Maryland N6b with operating switchman

Lionel B&O I-12

Mark, sometimes the quest goes on for so long but at the right moment you were there to get those great looking cabooses............Paul

suzukovich posted

That's really cool, Is it conventional or command?

Being 2 rail, a basic can motor is all it's got.  I'm thinking about converting it to 3RS if it can be done without destroying the originality.  It's probably worth more to the collector left as is.

Bruce

paul 2 posted:

Mark, sometimes the quest goes on for so long but at the right moment you were there to get those great looking cabooses............Paul

You are right Paul.  Recently someone posted an I-12 here on the forum.  I saw it 7 minutes after he posted it, so I quickly sent off an email, and he told me someone had beat me to it.  I never expected to find another so soon

Mark Boyce posted:

paul 2 posted:

Mark, sometimes the quest goes on for so long but at the right moment you were there to get those great looking cabooses............Paul

You are right Paul.  Recently someone posted an I-12 here on the forum.  I saw it 7 minutes after he posted it, so I quickly sent off an email, and he told me someone had beat me to it.  I never expected to find another so soon

Got a good solution to that problem Mark...

I posted on the WTB forum and let them come to me! Worked great!

I really regret selling my Blue I-12 a few years ago. Beautiful caboose. I'm very glad to have gotten a Chessie I-12, with window screens, thanks to the WTB forum. Paid more than I should have but you won't find an I-12 for cheap these days!

SJC,

You are correct!  I have posted on the For Sale, but never the WTB!  The blue one would be very nice, and the Chessie sounds great!  While the one I got wasn't cheap, I thought the seller was very reasonable considering what it was.  Thank you!

For you kit builders, I just got my new River Leaf local theater kit. This is a model of the TELENEWS Theater that was in San Francisco on Market St. It started as a news reel theater during the World War Two. The stock kit comes as the "Gary Theater" but Andre can make it in any name you want. This is my third kit from River Leaf. They are lots of fun to modify and super easy to build. Just paint, assemble and light. For you first time kit builders, this is a good one to try. The footprint is small so it should fit on almost any layout. Yet another winner for River Leaf. http://www.google.com/search?h...33.40e1_3z3xWM#spf=1

Don

My wife bought me this little choo choo to end my stuffy nose and dry mouth at nights. Works well!

A Lionel 6-83165 Pennsylvania Vision Legacy Scale Riveted GG-1 #4899 

Jim McGehee posted:

My wife bought me this little choo choo to end my stuffy nose and dry mouth at nights. Works well!

Jim,

I love it! The steamer we had when I was a kid sure wasn't like that

Jim McGehee posted:

My wife bought me this little choo choo to end my stuffy nose and dry mouth at nights. Works well!

Jim, 

My 3 year-old has a stuffy nose. This would be perfect for him. Where did you get it?

Tom.

Tom,

She got it from Loews. She did it on the sly so I do not know what it costs.

That is so cool.  I gotta get one for my kids room.

Mark B,

those are beautiful cabooses and thanks for posting...Wow

leapinlarry posted:

Mark B,

those are beautiful cabooses and thanks for posting...Wow

Larry,

Thank you!  I think they are the "coolest" items I have purchased for a while!  I remember seeing some of the B&O "wagon tops" when I was growing up.

I got these at the Estate sale today, been looking for the CN one for a long time, got the 225 finally to compliment my 230 that I got when I was a kid and also found this pretty cool and pretty well done done repaint of the GN in the Big Sky Blue Theme

Mark Boyce posted:

I had been looking for both these for a long time.  Amazingly, the same fellow had them for sale and at a nice price also.  My two favorite railroads.

 

Lionel B&O I-12

Mark, now you need to pair this cab up with a B&O wagon top box car.

PRRronbh posted:

Mark Boyce posted:

I had been looking for both these for a long time.  Amazingly, the same fellow had them for sale and at a nice price also.  My two favorite railroads.

 

Lionel B&O I-12

Mark, now you need to pair this cab up with a B&O wagon top box car.

You are absolutely right PRRronbh!!  Very unique, but plentiful on the B&O at one time.

Tom M posted:

Jim McGehee posted:

My wife bought me this little choo choo to end my stuffy nose and dry mouth at nights. Works well!

Jim, 

My 3 year-old has a stuffy nose. This would be perfect for him. Where did you get it?

Tom.

These have been issued several times over the past 10 years. Look closely and you'll see what the original version was. Give up? Thomas the Tank Engine.

I can't remember exactly where that version was sold, but it may have been at Linens n Things (while the chain was still in business) or Bed Bath & Beyond. Just search for steam engine humidifier using Google. I'm sure you will easily track one down.

I just fell in love with the newest addition of my Fleet.

Picked up the Burlington ABA set from Sidetrack Hobbies, the Y6B from Grahams Trains, the CB&Q cars from MB Klein and the two reefers from Ebay. Also picked up a Lionel B&O I-12 ans Lionel C&O NE caboose.

Regards,

Greg

www.youtube.com/trainbros89

SDIV Tim posted:

I just fell in love with the newest addition of my Fleet.

I've got that one.  It's a nice engine.

I got in 3 Atlas 11000 gal. tank cars. When were these first used?  I was thrilled because two are plain black UTLX and not pink and purple with some wild logo . The third was a surprise to find as it was a Tank Gas car, of which gasoline was sold right from the tank car, and one of those stations with its tank car still stands a couple of blocks from the center of Sidney, Ohio. Another question l have is when were they using the dome railing, and would removing it backdate the car?

Are you asking when the tankers were first produced by manufacturer; or when produced by Atlas? 

I did find on the Atlas site this info, don't know if it is helpful or not. 

Prototype was built in the 1940s and 1950s by American Car and Foundry, this 11,000 gallon specialized tank car was designed primarily for transporting liquefied petroleum gas and became a familiar sight on many of the railroads across the country.

"1940's" is important. If these cars existed IN 1940=good, 1941 and later=bad. I think domes need to be changed for crude oil, UTLX, and gasoline, Tank Gas.

I agree they might have to be for authenticity purposes.  There is a bunch of references in this page:  http://www.atlaso.com/reviews/mrn11ktanker.htm

Paul Moore posted:

SDIV Tim posted:

I just fell in love with the newest addition of my Fleet.

I've got that one.  It's a nice engine.

I just told my dad as a late April fools joke that two more in different roads are on their way.

This engine became my favorite in sounds and looks.

This isn't an exercise in oneupmanship, just another example of how preferences in collecting can create a pattern here on the forum.  Mark's beautiful I-12 inspired me to seek out some wagon top rolling stock to add variety to my roster.  No need for a caboose, as I'm not modelling the B&O.

But.....A vendor at the Sunday swap meet was offering a diverse assortment of 2 and 3 rail equipment, and this was the only wagon top car. I caved, and boy am I glad I did.  No identifying marks exist, so who made it remains a mystery.  I'm gonna need another set of decals!

Bruce

Bruce, Certainly no one upmanship is taken!  That is quite a nice one you got!  I don't blame you for grabbing it!

Mark,

You do know what this means, right?  I now need something in B&O scale motive power to compliment the cabin.  The  Chessie era is too new for my liking...besides, the I-12 just got a red paint job this morning.  I suppose putting up a want ad for decals in the classifieds is the next step.

Bruce

Yes Chessie is too new!  Buy one thing, then you need a bunch more to compliment it

Just picked these up online; should have them next week. Total impulse buy!!

I really should post some photos, but I had a sales table at a model train swap meet last weekend, and even though I didn’t buy much, I did get some decent stuff for very little money.

• Some blank train orders and paperwork for the very-short-lived Curtis, Milburn & Eastern Railroad. The Chehalis Steam Train folks now run over the tracks once used by this line.
• A entire blank pad of Milwaukee Road “flimsies” and a gathering of other paperwork from their lines in WA state.
• Union Pacific book of engineering drawings. Most are from the 70s but some go back to the 40s and way earlier without modifications. I most wanted this as it’s a perfect guide to making any signs on the system as it includes materials, typefaces and exact sizes of everything. Would have been better for it to have been a Southern RR one, but they’re hard to find for any railroad.
• Two of the curved stamped hat badges you see on conductor hats. I got one each for Conductor and Brakeman. They were in perfect condition and not RR marked.

I could have bought a bunch more stuff but I decided to only get the stuff that was either at ‘giveaway’ prices or I really wanted.

brwebster posted:

This isn't an exercise in oneupmanship, just another example of how preferences in collecting can create a pattern here on the forum.  Mark's beautiful I-12 inspired me to seek out some wagon top rolling stock to add variety to my roster.  No need for a caboose, as I'm not modelling the B&O.

But.....A vendor at the Sunday swap meet was offering a diverse assortment of 2 and 3 rail equipment, and this was the only wagon top car. I caved, and boy am I glad I did.  No identifying marks exist, so who made it remains a mystery.  I'm gonna need another set of decals!

Bruce

Now all you have to do is:

paint it,

Letter it,

and glaze it.

I know that feeling since I bought a Sun Set brass N&W CH cab.

PRRronbh posted

paint it,

Letter it,

and glaze it.

 

How's this for a beginning?

Note bailing wire hanging from brake wheel stanchion

Bruce

Bruce, looking GOOD!

Looks great, Bruce!

Nice job, Bruce!!

Thank you, gentlemen,

Fortunately, the cool temps and moderate humidity allowed the lacquer to lay smoothly without blushing.  Been trying to decide which marker lantern type to use.  Hopefully I get hit on the decal ad.

Bruce

645 posted:

86TA355SR posted:

D&H 65 posted:

....Just missed flying these (our squadron had just upgraded to Hueys)......

I flew Hueys myself, so did Dad.  It was a great father/son moment when we flew together once.

I had the honor of flying with the some of the last Vietnam Huey pilots.  Loved every minute of it.

To this day, nothing beats the "Sound of Freedom"

Since a few of you have discussed Hueys in this thread thought you'd like to know UH-1 #823 which flew combat missions in Vietnam is being restored to fly again in Pennsylvania. Here's a link to their site:  http://libertywarbirds.com/index.html

My brother did 3 tours flying Hueys and Chinooks.. Thanks for sharing the link and thank you all for your service!!

645 posted:

86TA355SR posted:

D&H 65 posted:

....Just missed flying these (our squadron had just upgraded to Hueys)......

I flew Hueys myself, so did Dad.  It was a great father/son moment when we flew together once.

I had the honor of flying with the some of the last Vietnam Huey pilots.  Loved every minute of it.

To this day, nothing beats the "Sound of Freedom"

Since a few of you have discussed Hueys in this thread thought you'd like to know UH-1 #823 which flew combat missions in Vietnam is being restored to fly again in Pennsylvania. Here's a link to their site:  http://libertywarbirds.com/index.html

I believe this was be same group that was here last year.  Awesome guys and an awesome ride.  I was able to go twice. Once with friends, and once with my son.  

Ruger's new SR-1911 .. awesome!  Can't find a place to put my NP sticker though ...

Got this a few weeks ago at National Railroad Worx in Mahwah NJ. Call and ask for Stacey great customer service

Getting closer to done as I begin adding decals.  I hate aligning individual letters, but with no leads on a proper decal set, at least the font is correct.

Adding lighting was a bit finicky too, with grain o rice bulbs for markers and 2 grain o wheat for the interior.

Bruce

Looks like your patience has paid off handsomely, Bruce!

Thaddeus posted:

That's awesome!  He'll never forget this! 

Brings back a lot of memories to me.  Fueled the fire as I grew up that I was going to fly no matter what!

I really miss flying Hueys and the great 'Nam vets who baby sat me!  Thanks for the memories.

Thanks, Mark

The terrible low ambient lighting photos were meant to show off the tiny incandescent lighting, which washes out all the detail. 

It's surprising how little there is of period I-12 photos on the net....black or white or otherwise.  I'd like to confirm whether white or yellow lettering was used prior to 1950?   Did safety painting on grab irons exist then, and if so, what color was used?

Bruce

19864 Ostrich car :-)  had to have it

saweeeeet

Anyone living in the area of the Blue Ridge mountains in the 70s or so would have seen these on the backs of cars. Tweetsie RR would put one on every car coming into their parking lot unless, if memory serves, you put your visors down. They no longer do this.

I've been wanting one of these for a long time, especially one in perfect shape such as this one.

This won't be going onto any bumpers, of course as they're not common these days.

Not sure what I'll do with it, but it was always a neat thing for me to see one on a car as a kid...

Bought one of these, missing the clock however, any one have one please get in touch.

I remember them stickers.

The Tweetsie is still a big deal around East TN but now it's mostly in reference to the Tweetsie Trail.  All the track was removed and it is now a very commonly used trail for the public. Has been very well received.

Still not like when the Real Tweetsie RR was here. Of course I'm prejudiced on making that remark.

By the way Lee  you started me thinking about that G scale ET & WNC Engine #12 (Green) you had way back . I actually found one and it's suppose to be in the mail headed this way.

Larry

I just bought a K-Line Golden State ABA Alco from a club member yesterday to go with my K-Line Golden State passenger cars. He surprised me with a email asking if I was interested in buying them. He brought it to the club and I ran them on the club layout. I'm going to run it at the club only because I don't run this train on my layout these days. I have other passenger trains for my layout.

Went to the Maine Hi-Railers' show in Dover NH yesterday and picked up a few things, one of which is an Atlas 53' Plug door Boxcar that I already had and is now for sale here on OGR.  The other car was a Weaver 40' boxcar, Boston & Maine #3122 Railroad Express Agency.  Another great Weaver car with all the trimmings.

DennyM posted:

I just bought a K-Line Golden State ABA Alco from a club member yesterday to go with my K-Line Golden State passenger cars. He surprised me with a email asking if I was interested in buying them. He brought it to the club and I ran them on the club layout. I'm going to run it at the club only because I don't run this train on my layout these days. I have other passenger trains for my layout.

Denny,

The Golden State set looks great!! And I am not a fan of red; but these are quite handsome.  Interesting flat end of the observation car, that you don't see that often.  Once they enclosed them, it seems like most were boat tail of some sort or another,

I just got in another Oakwood  Corporation kit.  This was a shop in Lemont, Ill., south of Chicago. I visited it maybe twice, and then it was gone.  This is a false front eatery and gas station. THIS kit, unlike the other l found recently, has instructions. Anybody familiar with them, the shop, other kits they might have offered, or have or know if they had a brochure of their kits? I am always interested in unique O scale structure or rolling stock kits and builders.

Mark Boyce posted:

DennyM posted:

I just bought a K-Line Golden State ABA Alco from a club member yesterday to go with my K-Line Golden State passenger cars. He surprised me with a email asking if I was interested in buying them. He brought it to the club and I ran them on the club layout. I'm going to run it at the club only because I don't run this train on my layout these days. I have other passenger trains for my layout.

Denny,

The Golden State set looks great!! And I am not a fan of red; but these are quite handsome.  Interesting flat end of the observation car, that you don't see that often.  Once they enclosed them, it seems like most were boat tail of some sort or another,

Thanks Mark,

I bought the passenger cars little by little from Trainz Auctions. I was having problems finding a matching engine and was going to sell them until one of the club members saw the passenger cars and told me he had the Golden State engines. I'm with you though. I'm not a big fan of read either, but I like it.

I saw this cool ride on toy at a local antique store.  I would have purchased if the price was significantly lower

Jim R. posted:

daylight posted:

brwebster posted:

To compliment my Milwaukee Road F-7 (Weaver brass) I added this A class Atlantic.  The Overland model appears to be  1960's or 70's vintage, judging by the primitive drive train.  A future repaint will take a bit of skill and a pair of big ones.

 

Very nice. 

 

Bought a new Lionel version ( Atlantic) from ebay a few months ago along with matching 18" aluminum passenger cars.  However, they were rib sided as opposed to smooth sided with the beaver tail observation car that goes with the Atlantic.   The rib sided versions were made for the F7 Milwaukee Road Hudson which came along about 3 years later.

Has Rail Sounds 5 and smokes like a champ which surprised me.

Didn't know that anyone else made this engine in O gauge.

 

Incorrect. The rib-sided cars Lionel modeled in its 2006 release were based on the cars the Milwaukee Road began introducing in 1936, one year after unveiling the Hiawatha Atlantics. Those four locomotives pulled those cars until the Hudsons were introduced. Source: "The Hiawatha Story" by Jim Scribbins, the authoritative author on all things Milwaukee Road from the Hiawatha era to the 1970s.

Also, the Hiawatha Atlantic has been rendered four other times in O gauge: Lionel's 1937 release, Lionel's 1988 release, Weaver's 2003 release, and Lionel's 2006 release. I was unaware of this Overland model.

I have the same book.  Maybe my post was confusing. 

The smooth sided cars traveled behind the Atlantic and the rib sided, when produced, were made for the Hiawatha F7 Hudson.  It's quite possible that eventually either engine pulled both versions with the Beaver Tail observation car ( two different styles) bringing up the rear.

This has nothing to do with Lionel

The rib-sided cars preceded the Hudson by two years. Read Scribbins' text. The new cars were introduced in 1936 and 1937 to create a more lightweight train behind the Atlantics. The F7 Hudsons picked styling cues from those cars, not the other way around, in 1938.

I'm not sure what you mean the post has nothing to do with Lionel, since I was responding to a post that cited the accuracy of Lionel's Atlantic and matching 18-inch cars, which were in fact a prototypically correct set. 

Not bought, but a good friend of mine took command of a destroyer yesterday and I was invited to attend, got some neat ship swag!

Lee

Did you get some pictures? I have seen a few (ground )  , but never taking command of a destroyer Pretty cool.

Larry

Larry Sr. posted:

Did you get some pictures?

Yep, but most are on my good camera. 

I was army, so our changes of command were very different...

Afterward, I got to see the USS Ford coming back from sea trials, really cool!

After promising myself I wouldn't buy anything not related to actual layout construction I was weak. After about a month of admiring a goergous set of Lionel aluminum 18" California Zephyr passenger cars on the shelf at Berwyn Toy Trains I gave in to temptation!!

Of course Tom added to the temptation by giving me a deal to good to pass up... Now what do I pull them with???

Bought a nice scale model of the Wright bros airplane that I plan to put on a layout, if and when that happens

#RD that's what I'm talking bout, not addiction, more like "Making it RIGHT!" salute

Midgetoy cars for my American Flyer 715 and 915 cars.

Jim R. posted:

The rib-sided cars preceded the Hudson by two years. Read Scribbins' text. The new cars were introduced in 1936 and 1937 to create a more lightweight train behind the Atlantics. The F7 Hudsons picked styling cues from those cars, not the other way around, in 1938.

I'm not sure what you mean the post has nothing to do with Lionel, since I was responding to a post that cited the accuracy of Lionel's Atlantic and matching 18-inch cars, which were in fact a prototypically correct set. 

Jim, have to take one more shot at this.  The smooth side cars were made for the Atlantic and the Rib sided cars for the Hudson.

The rib sided cars made by LIONEL were correct for the Hudson and not the Atlantic.

I never really intended to comment on your Lionel post

I believe, from what I have read and researched that Jim is correct.  The 4-6-4's went into service in August of 1938.  The Milwaukee Road designed and built the new 1937 Hiawatha in October of 1936 which included a baggage car, the Tip Top Tap, four coaches, a diner, 3 parlor cars and the Otto Kuhler designed beaver tail observation.  These,per my research actually ran behind the Atlantics until August of 1938 when the Otto Kuhler designed F7 4-6-4's went into revenue service.  So, the ribbed sided cars could have been hauled by 4-4-2's for at least a year or so between early 1937 and August of 1938.  But in reality, they are toy trains and we are supposed to run them because we like to have fun doing it.  I blasphemed my Hiawatha cars by pulling them behind my 3rd Rail LNER Flying Scotsman to see how many cars it could pull......................  

Yeah, train blasphemy is par for the course. I do it all the time

Since you confessed, I'll confess.  I took an old MTH O-27 0-8-0 conventional switcher and converted it to TMCC.  How's that for blasphemy?

There should be a photo in the attachment of a Milwaukee A class Atlantic with a ribbed baggage car behind the tender..................

This Dorfan set is almost identical to one I recently purchased for $8.00

Wow, good for you!  The locomotives appears to be sheet metal.  Dorfan were notorious for zincpest and finding a Dorfan electric outline locomotive that isn't warped or crumbling is rare.  They had major problems with their die casting process.  Happy Easter, that's much better than a bunch of chocolate eggs!

daylight posted:

Jim R. posted:

The rib-sided cars preceded the Hudson by two years. Read Scribbins' text. The new cars were introduced in 1936 and 1937 to create a more lightweight train behind the Atlantics. The F7 Hudsons picked styling cues from those cars, not the other way around, in 1938.

I'm not sure what you mean the post has nothing to do with Lionel, since I was responding to a post that cited the accuracy of Lionel's Atlantic and matching 18-inch cars, which were in fact a prototypically correct set. 

Jim, have to take one more shot at this.  The smooth side cars were made for the Atlantic and the Rib sided cars for the Hudson.

The rib sided cars made by LIONEL were correct for the Hudson and not the Atlantic.

 

I never really intended to comment on your Lionel post

I'll try one more time to try to undo your erroneous stubbornness.

From "A Hiawatha Story" by Jim Scribbins, beginning with the chapter marked "Ribbed Cars and 4-6-4's" on page 40 of the original Kalmbach book (copyright 1970):

"New equipment for the Hiawatha was exhibited at Chicago, Milwaukee, scheduled intermediate stops, and the Twin Cities October 5-10, 1936, and entered regular service on the 11th -- a totally new train (except for the motive power) after only 16 months of service. Opportunely, the number plates on the A's were such that the Two-Spot could be used advantageously to illustrate material pertaining to the consist of the second Hi.

"The Hiawatha of 1937 incorporated several notable improvements. Cor-Ten steel and aluminum alloys were employed to further reduce weight so that the cars weighed 41 to 43 percent less than the standard equipment, and the new nine-car train weighed but 27 tons more than the seven-car train of 1935 ...

"For the first time the trademark of fluting, or ribbing, appeared on the car sides above and below the windows, which were squared off in contrast to the convex-style windows of the first train."

On pages 46-47, the cars are pictured in a photo sequence from October 18, 1940, being pulled by Hiawatha Class A Atlantic no. 3.

From page 43:

"In February 1938, CMStP&P announced plans to acquire 55 passenger cars and 6 new locomotive's (by this time No. 4, which turned out to be the last of the Atlantics, had been strutting its stuff for approximately 10 months), primarily for Hiawatha Service.

"Meanwhile, back at the shops and at Schenectady, the assembly lines had been busy. For three days the third set of equipment, accompanied by a brand-new F-7 Hudson, was exhibited in Chicago, Milwaukee and the Twin Cities, with a brief showing at intermediate stops, and on September 19, 1938, the Hiawatha of 1939 entered service. The 1936 replacement of the first train had been unprecedented in rail history; this was even more astounding."

So, in summary: the Atlantics were introduced in May 1935 pulling the original smooth side cars, which were replaced beginning in 1936 by the rid sided cars. The Hudsons were not even designed at that point, but were introduced in 1938. The Atlantics continued to be used in Hiawatha service for a time as well as the Hudsons.

Now show me some authoritative text that says otherwise.

As I said before, you are correct, Jim.  It even says that the ribbed or fluted cars were designed in 1936 for the 1937 Hiawatha in Wikipedia.  As indicated, the F7 didn't hit the rails until August of 1938.  I attached a photo to my last post about this that I pasted a photo I found into a word document showing an A class Atlantic with a ribbed baggage car clearly shown behind the tender.  So, there is photographic proof, (don't know when the picture was taken, but certainly while A's were in revenue service) of an A pulling a ribbed baggage car at a minimum.   I looked at my set of Hiawatha cars from 2006 by Lionel and while the are sort of correct, one of the numbers on one of the coaches is 485 which was not built until 1947.  Run trains, have fun.....happy Easter.  Life is too short to worry about trivia.

Thanks for that, Tinplate Tom. I had to go to quite a bit of effort to make my point to correct an erroneous post in which the writer subsequently ignored my first summary. 

Since my reference on things Hiawatha is restricted to a rather in depth look at the 2 steam locos, this topic has been informative to me.  While the SP Daylight might hold the distinction of being the most beautiful train, I've always felt the Hiawatha was a strong contender.  So, when decent scale examples in O have become available, I've splurged.

The A is quite the remarkable engine for it's time.  There's something fascinating about the resurrection of an Atlantic wheel configuration to suit the job at hand.  Had there been no increase in Hiawatha train size and weight, the F7 might not have been necessary.  They both propelled their charges to equally quick schedules, but the initial light weight idea became blurred by the time the F7's took over.  Not surprisingly, in secondary service, as the fleet aged, the 4, A's were found to be reliable performers. The success of the Hiawatha often translated into running second sections, whether behind the A or the F7.  

My Weaver F7 came with the matching 5 car set, with ribs.  Found the engine DOA so I tossed the TAS stuff for new ERR.

Bruce

Today I picked up a lovely piece of N&W Passenger cars. The Powhatan Arrow 7 car set from Lionel made in 1995. It includes a baggage car, combo car, two passenger cars, a diner car, a duplex roomette car, and the observation car which I believe was sold to Saudi Arabia. Somebody tell me why was the observation car(s) sold to Saudi Arabia and what became of it. 

Anyway nice photos of the cars:

Top to Bottom: 6-19141 Diner Car, 6-19140 Combo Car, 6-19139 Baggage Car

Top to Bottom: 6-19144 Observation Car, 6-19143 Passenger Car, 6-19142 Passenger Car

finally, the 6-19151 Duplex Roomette Car:

And the locomotive that is going to be pulling the train will be the Lionel 6-38095 N&W J 611 that I haven't got yet but will someday! Hopefully Christmas  

Very nice passenger set, Steamboy!!  I'll be looking forward to reading that you have finally found a 6-38095 N&W J 611!!

844 Legacy 1st release  

y

Mark Boyce: Thanks Im looking forward to running the 611 and the passenger cars on my layout soon.

Jim R. posted:

Thanks for that, Tinplate Tom. I had to go to quite a bit of effort to make my point to correct an erroneous post in which the writer subsequently ignored my first summary. 

The A class Atlantics as you know, were in service from 1935 until they were withdrawn from service between 1949 and 1951.  Since there were numerous types of fluted and smooth side Milwaukee cars in service, the odds of a Hiawatha running with an A class and either smooth sided or fluted or ribbed (there were in fact two different types of flutes or ribs) or any combination in the post war period from 1945-1950 are good since these were not articulated permanently coupled cars.  #3 in the photo I posted was actually withdrawn from service in '49 to use as spares to keep the remaining A class locomotives in revenue service until '51.   I have always been impressed with their performance as they were probably the mos powerful Atlantics built anywhere on the planet with their 19 inch cylinders, 300 pound boilers and 84 inch drivers.  It is amazing that in the 1930's Milwaukee Road managed to run trains at speeds approaching 100 MPH but today Amtrack passenger trains in that area average 49 MPH.   Progress?  

MartyE, I have that one in grey and I love it. Possibly more that the latest release

Matt Makens posted:

MartyE, I have that one in grey and I love it. Possibly more that the latest release

I have them both now Grey and Black.  Maybe I should re-create this scene now that I have the Black one....

Does somebody make a mini MartyE in 1/48? Accept no imitations!!!

Probably only cool if you are Marx or tinplate collector/operator, Marx 309 camouflage tunnel

Hi All

Here I am again. I found a G scale East Tennessee Western North Carolina Green Engine  and Tender # 12 Brand new and even with the shipper. Been waiting for this thing coming from Utah??? Seems like it took for ever.

I think I'm naming it P-51. lol He started me thinking and hunting about engine #12.

It is a beautiful match to my Black Engine # 11 I just received a couple weeks ago.

I'm really getting into these Tennessee G scale trains

Larry

brwebster posted:

Since my reference on things Hiawatha is restricted to a rather in depth look at the 2 steam locos, this topic has been informative to me.  While the SP Daylight might hold the distinction of being the most beautiful train, I've always felt the Hiawatha was a strong contender.  So, when decent scale examples in O have become available, I've splurged.

The A is quite the remarkable engine for it's time.  There's something fascinating about the resurrection of an Atlantic wheel configuration to suit the job at hand.  Had there been no increase in Hiawatha train size and weight, the F7 might not have been necessary.  They both propelled their charges to equally quick schedules, but the initial light weight idea became blurred by the time the F7's took over.  Not surprisingly, in secondary service, as the fleet aged, the 4, A's were found to be reliable performers. The success of the Hiawatha often translated into running second sections, whether behind the A or the F7.  

My Weaver F7 came with the matching 5 car set, with ribs.  Found the engine DOA so I tossed the TAS stuff for new ERR.

Bruce

 

 

I'd like to find one of these in like-new condition to add to the CL&W roster!!

I know a lot of British and European model railroaders who would challenge the notion that the SP Daylight is the most beautiful train.

Weaver 50 Ft Flat Car with 35 Ft Trailers - CNJ and B&LE / Bessemer. MTH C&O 2-6-6-6 Allegheny Freight Set and a new 5G router 

I added some Weaver rolling stock.

Two MTH Premier All-door boxcars.  Excellent graphics!

Tinplate Tom posted:

I know a lot of British and European model railroaders who would challenge the notion that the SP Daylight is the most beautiful train.

They would say "real steam locomotives don't wear skirts"

Kerrigan posted:

Tinplate Tom posted:

I know a lot of British and European model railroaders who would challenge the notion that the SP Daylight is the most beautiful train.

They would say "real steam locomotives don't wear skirts"

All the pretty ones do!!!

Kerrigan posted:

Tinplate Tom posted:

I know a lot of British and European model railroaders who would challenge the notion that the SP Daylight is the most beautiful train.

They would say "real steam locomotives don't wear skirts"

The Devil, you say!

That would be one of them with a string of Gresley teak, articulated coaches.  The Australians would put their Victorian Railways Spirit of Progress in that category.  Others in the running would include South Africa's Blue Train, Germany's Rheingold Express, the British Southern Railway Golden Arrow hauled by a Bullied Pacific and of course the famous Orient Express from Paris to Istanbul, none of which are painted in garish colors like red, orange and black.  

Doesn't everything tinplate come in garish colors like red orange and black?

No some come in blue, green, yellow, etc. 

Went down to Menards to pick up my city block along with a tank car for a friend. Really nice looking buildings. Pics..........Paul

paul 2 posted:

Went down to Menards to pick up my city block along with a tank car for a friend. Really nice looking buildings. Pics..........Paul

Very nice Paul!!  It will look great on your layout !  Mine is supposed to be delivered to home today!

Got in my dream car, but it is 1/43rd the desired size, worse luck. It is a  NEO 1937 LaSalle coupe. Didn't think Brooklin or anybody would make the right year. Been on my bucket list since childhood rides in my great aunt's sedan.  Came within a hair of owning a 1:1 twin for my g.aunt's but ran into a storage problem.  The owner of my RR will drive this, parked outside the two story station main offices.

colorado hirailer posted:

Got in my dream car, but it is 1/43rd the desired size, worse luck. It is a  NEO 1937 LaSalle coupe. Didn't think Brooklin or anybody would make the right year. Been on my bucket list since childhood rides in my great aunt's sedan.  Came within a hair of owning a 1:1 twin for my g.aunt's but ran into a storage problem.  The owner of my RR will drive this, parked outside the two story station main offices.

I hear you about a dream car, but those older cars are total maintenance hogs.

Mine was always a WW2 Jeep, which I have in both 1:1 and 1:43. The funny thing is I almost didn’t even get any Jeeps for the layout at first, even though I model the WW2 years! Note the model Jeeps in the left of the layout shot, I have three of them scattered around.

My 1:1 one is a unrestored (but maintained since sold to the public in 1947) Willys MB, a 1944 model. I had a nasty cough that lasted almost the entire winter, so I did almost nothing with it as I didn’t want to be out in the cold and rain (this was the rainiest winter in decades, they say) with it, so I really need to get the battery charged, fire her up and change the oil and do the pre-good-weather checks…

p51 posted:

colorado hirailer posted:

Got in my dream car, but it is 1/43rd the desired size, worse luck. It is a  NEO 1937 LaSalle coupe. Didn't think Brooklin or anybody would make the right year. Been on my bucket list since childhood rides in my great aunt's sedan.  Came within a hair of owning a 1:1 twin for my g.aunt's but ran into a storage problem.  The owner of my RR will drive this, parked outside the two story station main offices.

I hear you about a dream car, but those older cars are total maintenance hogs.

Mine was always a WW2 Jeep, which I have in both 1:1 and 1:43. The funny thing is I almost didn’t even get any Jeeps for the layout at first, even though I model the WW2 years! Note the model Jeeps in the left of the layout shot, I have three of them scattered around.

My 1:1 one is a unrestored (but maintained since sold to the public in 1947) Willys MB, a 1944 model. I had a nasty cough that lasted almost the entire winter, so I did almost nothing with it as I didn’t want to be out in the cold and rain (this was the rainiest winter in decades, they say) with it, so I really need to get the battery charged, fire her up and change the oil and do the pre-good-weather checks…

I need one of those Lee! Except it needs to say U.S.M.C. on the hood!

mike g. posted:

p51 posted:

I need one of those Lee! Except it needs to say U.S.M.C. on the hood!

Here you go! Just know it's more like 1/50 scale...

p51 posted:

mike g. posted:

p51 posted:

I need one of those Lee! Except it needs to say U.S.M.C. on the hood!

Here you go! Just know it's more like 1/50 scale...

LOL thanks Lee, I mean a 1:1 scale!

1934 ET&WNC timetable. Neither of my parents (who are each above 80 now) were even gleams in anyone's eyes for another year or so...

Jim R and Tinplate Tom

Thank you for clearing up my confusion/ lack of dedicated reading regarding the MR Rib Sided passenger cars.

Since I have Lionel's version of the Rib Sidded cars ( used to have Weavers version with the green film in the windows) I no longer need to feel that I have to have the F7 to feel prototypically correct while running them behind the Atlantic (saved me a fair amount of $$$).

The information of the other manufactures making the Atlantic was also useful.

Union Pacific Railroad Passenger Cars Volume 2 1940-1949

G.B. Davies (1977, 228 pages. Book No. 40)

Nice book, mainly photos & diagrams.

Here are two version of SuperStreets vehicles, the NASA van by K-line, Angelo's Pizza K-line by Lionel.  Hub caps aren't the only difference, NASA is significantly heaver, beefier pick-ups and from the underframe possibly even a bigger motor.

Next two separate e-bay purchases garnered a K-line die-cast Alaska RR hopper that I've wanted since K-line introduced them and finally got the bargain price I was looking for and a K-line ARR extended vision caboose.

Even though I already had a 1087 I think K-line did I great job with this style caboose and always keep an eye out for the ARR and several other road names.  Always limit my bids to about $40 depending on shipping because I don't really need any more cabeese but will gladly rotate out a square window or northeast style caboose for one of these at the right price.

Got this Bangor & Aroostoock 50' Plug Door Boxcar at the Hookset, NH train show today.  Another nice car from Weaver.  Always can count on Weaver for local road names.

Have I bought anything cool lately?  Why yes, yes I did. 

I picked this up at the Eastern O-Scale meet in Strasburg, PA yesterday.

I think it will look perfect on the layout, eventually.

George

God help me, I have a diesel now. Bought it on the Tacoma Trains hobby shop's final day.
I'm going to do some detail additons, paint and letter it for an Army Loco and put a GI in the cab...

I couldn't get over how heavy it is, I doubt there are many plastic parts in it from the weight.

If I run it in op sessions, it would only be used with army rolling stock or tank cars. I can justify it in that way and stick with my original layout concept.

Lee,

I thought the same, for a long time in HO and then in O gauge, I only had steam.  Once I bought an F3, then I ended up with a couple more early diesels.

Mark Boyce posted:

I thought the same, for a long time in HO and then in O gauge, I only had steam.  Once I bought an F3, then I ended up with a couple more early diesels.

The issue for me is that my layout takes place in 1943 on a narrow gauge backwoods layout in the Blue Ridge Mountains. A diesel in such an environment is frankly silly (as the RR I model didn’t get a diesel even after they abandoned their 3-foot line for the standard gauge portion, getting rid of steam in 1968).

As my concept is for a fictional branch line that is co-run by the US Army during the war, I figured I could justify one diesel as a stretch to that concept without being too laughable. But even then it is quite a stretch. The justification I’ve found is to be able to run with what we’d call HAZMAT cars today; such as boxcars full of explosives of one of the two tank cars I have on the layout.

I will eventually add some details (and a sound card), paint and letter it for an Army unit (probably painting it black with white lettering) and weather it very lightly.

But no, you will NOT see another diseasel on this layout and you probably won’t even see this very often.

Lee,

I understand what you say.  Your focus is narrow, and you are doing a great job with it!!  I tried narrowing my focus a number of years ago, but decided to loosen my focus when I came to O.  1950 and West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Virginia roads, lead to extra possibilities 

Sacrilege! A diesel? You will be excommunicated!  My railroad's connection to Class 1's that ran into or through Colorado Springs in 1940 would justify some very colorful covered wagons, from Rock Island, MP, and Grande, but evil temptations must be resisted. Oops! I have sinned. Today l bought the shell of a Lionel RDC-1 (there is no smoke stack on it).  The plan is to find the shell of the Lionel RDC-? that went with it and kitbash a scale length RDC-3, using the chassis of an RMT shorty RDC-1, in hand, that l acquired to power gas electrics. A future project...

I got this off ebay for a very good price. I only wanted the tender, to make a MOW water car out of it, representing a former locomotive tender.

I stripped down the locomotive in about 10 minutes with a screw driver. Only one axle had gears on it, the rest went along for the ride. If I can’t get the gear off that axle, I’ll just grind/pull the wheels off that axle. The front pilot axle looks nice and I might place that at the end of a spur somewhere after hitting it was a lot of rust weathering powders. The other drive wheels/axles, I’m torn between making a gondola load out of them or placing them around the Army spur area as a training aid for soldiers. I’m tempted to make a shed out of the cab, as that was done in yards back in the day (some steam cabs existed well past the steam era, some into the 80s, in more obscure locations on RR property as sheds). I will saw the smoke box lid off the boiler shell, drill out the bolt heads to make it look like it was removed with tools like a real one would be but I’m not sure what I’d do with it otherwise. The other parts (headlight, domes, piping, air tank, bell, etc.), I’ll probably just throw into a box in case I ever need them. I can’t just scatter the parts around as rusted cast-offs, as that stuff would have gone to a scrapper right away due to the need for scrap metal for the war effort. Such a shame it couldn’t have been a broken ten-wheeler as I would have stripped the engine down, put it on blocks, and made it look like the Army was rebuilding an ET&WNC locomotive.

Picked up a Lionel set at estate sale over the weekend looks to be a 1954 1503WS set. Dirty but not abused. Lubed all the points and gave her a test run and she ran and whistled like 1954. 

For me, the best part is doing the clean up and oiling the works. The smoke unit is clogged and found a screw stuck by one of the drivers but overall its in good shape.

I'll post a "after" video soon.

Thanks for looking, Frank

Nice find and I agree with you about some oil, a little cleaning and away it goes !!

Guess am one of the lucky four.