GGD SF El Capitan Set Change

Scot mentioned a short time ago that when he finished the Train of Tomorrow project, the Hi-Levels were next. The ToT is scheduled for shipping in November.

 

I hope this helps.

The Amtrak version is about to be canceled due to lack of reservations.

Did Scott say anything at York about approximate ship date for this set?

I asked him that question and he said "looking promising for January". Hopefully we see some pics soon.

Cool. Thanks for the info.

Not surprised there..... couldn't get enough orders for the Santa Fe Super Hudson, I just don't see the numbers coming for the Amtrak cars.

January would be GREAT.  I can't help but compare the El Capitain project that Scott has put together vs the Atlas California Zephyr.  If Scott delivers in January, that will be just over 11 months from announcement to delivery.  Atlas is going on six years and the Zephyr is still not finished.

 

 

 

 

There will be many happy folks come January with their new SF Hi-Level set. Jim will be at the head of the line. 

Brian, you know me like a brother. 

LOS,
I would have loved an atsf super Hudson,  but i am hooked on legacy and the looks of third rail engines for me do not overcome that deficit.  I hope Lionel will consistently rival third rail some day

Woooo!  And I'll be second in line!  I missed out on the K-Line version of these and did cartwheels when Scott announced this set.

 

(Now try and get THAT vision out of your minds!)  

 

Really the only difference between my Legacy AC12 and my 3rd Rail AC9 is the smoke volume and whistle smoke. Other wise the AC9 runs just as well as the Legacy, but has a lot more detail.

 

I missed out on the K-Line high levels as well. Been trying to track down the transition cars for a couple years, but REFUSE to pay the price for them that they were commanding.

 

Now I'll have a great El Cap, Super Chief, and run them as the combine El Cap/SC with 4 powered 3rd Rail F7's

Laidoffsick posted: 

 

Now I'll have a great El Cap, Super Chief, and run them as the combine El Cap/SC with 4 powered 3rd Rail F7's 

 

That will be one SPECTACULAR site.  I hope you can post a video.  

 

I would also be interested in close-up stills of the 3rd Rail F7's,  Thank You.

"Now I'll have a great El Cap, Super Chief, and run them as the combine El Cap/SC with 4 powered 3rd Rail F7's"

 

This should be the nicest passenger train on your fabulous layout. Can't wait for you to receive it and post pictures. The Sante Fe Hi-Levels are unequalled in the passenger train world.

Can't wait to see some pictures of this fabulous train set! 

Doug, in addition to the GGD El Capitan set on order I have a K-Line Super Chief 10 car set I'll run with MTH Santa Fe ABBA F7's, F-3's and ABA E8's.  I may look into some ABA PA's at some point too.

 

I also ordered some Amtrak coaches to make my K-Line set longer.  I hope they get made too.

Great to see Brian at York. The Sante Fe will be well represented on his layout for sure!

I have an El Cap set on order and some extra cars... Just curious... What cars would I need to make up a prototypical El Cap/Super Chief? 

The consist for train # 18 Combined SC/EL Cap from LA to Chicago in Sept 1959.

 

60' RPO

Baggage Mail

Baggage Dorm

Hi-Level Step Down

Hi-Level Chair Car

Hi-Level Diner

Hi-Level Lounge

Hi-Level Chair Car

Hi-Level Step Down

10-6 Sleeping car

2-4-4 Sleeping car

Pleasure Dome

Dining Car

2-4-4 Sleeping car

(2) 10-6 Sleeping cars

YEP, that is the way I remember Train #17 heading West out of Chicago.  Train #18 was East bound from LA to Chicago and did not have an RPO in the consist.

 

Can you share your source?

Sure Jim, Santa Fe Super Chief and El Capitan by Patrick Dorin, a great book for Santa Fe fans and modelers.

Not O gauge but heres a pic of Walthers El Cap Step Down car with drum head, just to get us by until we see some GGD pics

This has been such a great thread with lots of very informative and useful information.  I too am a Santa Fe fan and have all of the K-Line 21" cars plus an extra or two.  In addition, I have two complete sets of their Amtrak cars...one in 3-rail and the other in 2-rail.  BUT...for sure, the GGD set will be the standard.  They will be accurate and beautiful cars!!

 

Alan

You guys have really been making me nervous with all this talk and pictures about this beautiful train.  I had a chance to buy a complete set of the K-Line 21" cars recently and passed on it.  That was because I assured my wife that I would not buy any more engines or trains until I got a lot of scenery done.  I don't doubt that I will have a tough time finding one when I am finally in the market, but the search has always been part of the fun.  I know the K-Line set is gorgeous and I have no doubt that the GGD will be also.

 

Art

       
       

That combine train is easy to build if you have the SC and El Cap sets from GGD... Even for you Brian with the K-Line cars, you just need enough powered units in the consist to pull it.... oh and a big enough layout. I'll have to run that train at the club in San Diego.

I have the El Cap set on order. I really regret not getting the SC set when it came out

In 1959, the East bound #18 had an RPO from LA to Kansas City and at KC would switch out the RPO as well as the LA to Kansas City 10-6 sleeper. So yes, Jim is partially correct, no RPO Eastbound from Kansas City to Chicago.

jvega2 stated:  "In 1959, the East bound #18 had an RPO from LA to Kansas City and at KC would switch out the RPO as well as the LA to Kansas City 10-6 sleeper. So yes, Jim is partially correct, no RPO Eastbound from Kansas City to Chicago."

 

Thanks for posting this, that explaines why I did not see the RPO on the Eastbound SC/EC combo into Chicago.

hi jvega

got anymore photos of the Walthers car ? Bernie

"Even for you Brian with the K-Line cars, you just need enough powered units in the consist to pull it...."

 

You got that right. I am running 13 cars in my El Capitan with Lionel F3's (ABBA, two powered) and pulling it and you know you have a heavy load behind. The GGD cars will undoubtedly be heavier, so lots of power is advised.

I'll take some and post soon.

Here are some pic's of the Walthers HO El Capitan.  I bought the complete 12-car Deluxe set.  This set included lighting and passengers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For anyone who may be considering mixing and matching GGD and K-Line cars note that the K-Line El Capitan cars are Superliner cars in disguise and that they are different heights and shapes from the GGD El Capitan cars.

 

No problem doing it just don't get upset when they don't match.

hello jvega

I tried sending you an email for photos listed here but it bounced back , could you send me some pictures of the HO cars close up like your posted photo.

 

Thanks Bernie  , email in my profile

Tried to send pics but also bounced back using your email.