I know Lionel produced the M10,000. but in my mind it was a very odd looking duck ;
My favorite early streamed line engine was the evolution of this... the M10004,5, and 6
Has anyone made one of these recently in O scale?
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Originally Posted by 3rd rail:
That is a condensed size tinplate item. While nice, I believe J Daddy is looking for a scale train.
I wonder if one of the brass importers have done one. It is quite a neat looking train.
I believe Pride Lines made a scale City of Denver in "O" gauge.
I found this picture on the web:
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Yes, I was looking for something scale with command, and it sure would be nice if it was produced with Legacy... hint, hint... to Lionel
But even a MTH PS3 version would be nice. Or a Weaver, 3rd rail, or even Bachman could earn my cash...
I have never heard of Pride Lines manufacturing. What year did this come out in?
Thanks,
Marx made an M10000
"But I am looking for something scale..."
Well, why not try posting this on the 3-rail scale forum? Just as idea.
I'd love to see something like this, non-scale, 027, plastic and absolutely conventional. Better yet, a 027-ized Acela would be better and probably a huge seller for Lionel.
No, No, No, you have it all wrong....
Tin plate and 027 is cool but I am looking for something that has not been done before...
You know limit the rehash....Make something new!
Hmm maybe this would make a great Vision line set!
The Pride Lines set was tinplate. Very nice looking, but conventional. My experience with Pride Lines has been that their products are good looking but unreliable and the fit and quality of mechanical parts is poor.
Seems to me that MTH made the M10,000 in Premier, scale sized, as well as in their "junior" Railkink size.
Nice shot of the Marx "scale" set. I had that train when I was a kid; thought I was the 'king of the block" in our neighborhood. Have one on my shelf once again.
Incidentally, the Lionel model of the M10,000, their number #752, while it is a fairly scale model although a pretty early and crude model, was actually done in 17/64" scale. In the mid 1930's, it was thought that "0" gauge, with it's 1 1/4" gauge between the rails, was not correct for 1/4" scale trains because the actual track gauge would have represented 5' between the rails. So the MTH Premier M10,000 is noticeably smaller than the old Lionel version. It is correct to our understanding of "0" scale, however.
I've always thought that it was fortunate that by the time Lionel was producing the 700E scale Hudson, cooler heads had prevailed and we were not stuck with that 17/64", odd size to have as a standard for all to come.
Paul Fischer
Hey, get somebody to redo the car too{2nd last pic}...{'43 plymouth sedan?}
I have always liked the Lionel City of Denver because it runs on regular 031 track.
J Daddy... I feel your 'pain', man.
I've been pining for years for the 5-car Cincinnatian passenger car set, correctly done as the Beano did in their makeover of HW cars.
However, I'm convinced we'll only see these things from the short-run, big-bucks crews...if ever.
Just as your M10004, -5, -6 was a unique UP item, short-lived, the Cincy cars were unique to the Beano, although with a somewhat longer life.
As explained to me by one very honest short-run, big-bucks representative...'There isn't enough demand.' Now, I don't know how this is accurately measured, short of an actual survey and/or "trial balloon", so to speak. But a more mass production manufacturer would look at jobs like this with the thought, 'How many combinations/permutations of road names and paint schemes could I run in order to get a decent return on the tooling $$$, and make some money, to boot?'
So, if you could tolerate seeing your M10004 in a Santa Fe Warbonnet scheme (
), or I could tolerate seeing my Cincy passenger cars in a Ringling Brothers scheme (
), there could be a glimmer of hope.
But, I doubt it.
....Especially in this economy, etc..
Besides, the demographics of devotee's of either of these historic onesies is dwindling....not to mention doddering, drooling, decrepit, ....and gaseous. (Hey, I ought to know, Jack...I'm one of them!!
)
Fun to dream, though.
Happy Wednesday. Think Spring. Seek Warmth.
KD
J Daddy:
As a suggestion, try forwarding a request along with supporting information to 3rd Rail. This might be a project best suited to limited production brass.
Good luck,
Bob
Bob,
Whom would I speak with and would they listen to the little guys?
J Daddy:
In my experience, Mr. Scott Mann and his team at 3rd Rail value and welcome input from customers moreso than any other O scale manufacturer. In fact, Scott (sdmann), Bob (rheil) and Jonathan (GG1 4877) are regular participants on the forum.
Bob
Sunset Models also did the M10000 in 2-rail, back in about 2002 or 2003 I think. There is one offered for sale on Ebay right now. Search the "O" scale brass listings and you will see it.
Jeff
Originally Posted by J Daddy:
And maybe you are a little creative in your tooling and add a different slide to pruduce the GREEN DIAMOND! I know a few fans like I would throw some green backs at this one....
It'll need more than a slide, the Green Diamond and City of Denver are two completely different animals.
Rusty
ok then maybe a die insert. Point is there would be an opportunity here.
hmm. vision line set, with the return of a station sounds diner.
hmm. vision line set, with the return of a station sounds diner.
J Daddy,
Yep might throw a few bucks on that big Green Diamond myself, a way cool original.
PCRR/Dave
