It’s coming up on a year since our last FCTT club show. One of the things I enjoy running at shows is what I call ‘gadget’ cars that allow the public to get drawn into. I was recently rotating some rolling stock onto my layout and pulled out my Swift hot box reefer. I think Lionel did a great job with these with the exception that it just keeps repeating unless you flip a manual switch to disable features. However, for a reasonable amount of money ERR sold a kit to allow you to power it on/off with your TMCC remote which I ordered and installed in short order so to not drive the family, and me nuts. The fun begins with some general “All clear “ announcements. This is followed by some screeching, increasingly tense announcements, flashing orange LED’s underneath one truck, and wisps of smoke. As time goes on, the screeching and panic increases, the LED’s flash more, and the smoke billows out. When stopped, the smoke and lights continue while the crew douses the flames. Once the fire is out the request is made to “move out”! Anyway, when you set the timing up so it passes by a few families with young kids it’s fun watching the reaction to all the action going on. We’ve had people run to get a club member because a train is on fire! Even spooked a few club members at times. Just curious who’s got one of these and sharing some of the fun you can have. It’s a great hobby!
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Most obnoxious rolling stock every made but visitors to my layout love it. I've had visitors grab my sleeve and with all seriousness tell me I have a car on fire.
I’ve got one and like you said it’s a crowd pleaser. Cjack installed a ERR switch on mine and it’s really nice to be able to arm and dis-arm anytime you want. The smoke and lights are super coooool!
I bought one after I left your house Jim!
I'm not sure where it is, down in the pile of boxes. I liked it so much, I had to get one. I've never even remembered to try it!
I have the Pacific Fruit Express version, and installed the ERR "switch" as well. I get extra fun by coordinating the emergency stop sequence in the Legacy Diesel locomotive. Annoyance is fended off by running the program no more than once a week.
I have one. My Uncle bought it for me a long time ago. It actually stopped working. I'm sure some went wrong in the board but I've never given it to our electronics guy to check it out. I hope I get it going again and I really liked the car. Lots of fun and a crowd pleaser. Heck, it's a pleaser for my dad and I!
I have the NYC version as well. 'Should' be the last car before the caboose.
I have two that I run on occasion. It would be great with the ERR "switch" a few of you speak of. Can anyone provide a part number, where to purchase and exactly how difficult it is to install. I am pretty handy and figure I could solder it in.
@Rails52 posted:I have two that I run on occasion. It would be great with the ERR "switch" a few of you speak of. Can anyone provide a part number, where to purchase and exactly how difficult it is to install. I am pretty handy and figure I could solder it in.
I don't have one but reading this thread it would be great for club Open Houses! Info on that ERR switch!!
Obnoxious yes, but very creative! I got mine during the first wave of blow out prices, about $65. I seen them as low as $40 afterwards. Many of them on eBay now have stupid prices. Here’s a link for the ‘Hot Box’ kit from 3rdRail ERR.
http://www.3rdrail.com/err-3rdrail/index.html
Look in Operating Cars/ Hot Box However, he doesn’t list the kits for purchase, but the main component is the Mini Commander HC which he still lists. You’ll have to cobble the rest of the parts. I have the manual somewhere if it’s not on the site.
I have a couple. I also installed an led under the car that lights when I enable the features with the CAB. That way I can see if it’s on because there is a slight delay in the sequence of events.
I own 2, but only activate the sequence once or twice a run session as it is way to short a time between activation if leave it on.
I do and installed an ERR controller in mine.
Is the err kit still made my err third rail co? I see it on the web sight but not sure they still sell them. I would like to get one.
I have this car too and like the many above added the ERR board. I don't know why this wasn't standard but it makes it a lot more fun on a TMCC controlled layout.
Great cars and as you said, real attention getter at club events. I almost always flip the sound switch off to run one. Very reliable
I think I have three of them, in various road names. All of them have been upgraded to command control so I can just turn them on during a show to amuse the visitors, then turn them off so they don't drive me nuts.
@Rails52 posted:I have two that I run on occasion. It would be great with the ERR "switch" a few of you speak of. Can anyone provide a part number, where to purchase and exactly how difficult it is to install. I am pretty handy and figure I could solder it in.
Easy to install, here's the installation guide for the Mini Commander and the Hot Box Reefer.
ERR Hot Box Car Mini Commander Installation Guide.pdf
@Lionelzwl2012 posted:Is the err kit still made my err third rail co? I see it on the web sight but not sure they still sell them. I would like to get one.
You can just buy the generic ERR Mini Commander and use these instructions. It doesn't need anything special.
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All great information, if upgraded, are you able to utilize the cab2 to activate the car, or only from a cab 1. The instructions seem to show it being programmed using a cab1, however after it is programmed would a cab2 work, or does cab2 send the signal differently.
thanks
Frank
The CAB2 will do anything the CAB1 will do with a single exception, that being talk directly to the old TMCC PowerMaster. You can program the Hot Box Reefer with the CAB2 no sweat.
Thanks, just ordered one mini commander.
Frank
Roadnames it should have had:
1. End of Line. Lionel's Holloween Line.
2. Addams Family Lines. Sounds changed to explosions.
3. ACME and/or Wile E. Coyote Lines. After explosions, Roadrunner says: MEEP MEEP!
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I think I have three of them, in various road names. All of them have been upgraded to command control so I can just turn them on during a show to amuse the visitors, then turn them off so they don't drive me nuts.
I bet if you’re running all three at once you’d have some real havoc going.
I confess, I only tried that once, it was, shall we say, interesting.
It’s great to see more folks having fun with these! They were kind of a red headed step child when they came out and a factory installed TMCC control probably would have prevented that. I believe Jon Z owned ERR at the time and he jumped on the kit quickly to save them from being a complete dud! I think they easily rival the Vision reefers IMO. However, I know some wished they were scale reefers like the Visions!
I used to own one of these which I purchased already upgraded to TMCC. I used to love playing tricks on kids when they came to visit my old layout. They'd be running a train for a bit when I'd activate the car using another remote. I'd joking yell at them "what did you break! I told you not to touch anything". Always good for a good laugh!
-Greg