New Legacy Diesel has low smoke output

it has a very odd funnel to the smoke unit if i recall,  my 2 i tilt the back of the engine up so the fluid goes to smoke unit, try downloading the app & you can adjust smoke output

@tom21pa posted:

it has a very odd funnel to the smoke unit if i recall,  my 2 i tilt the back of the engine up so the fluid goes to smoke unit, try downloading the app & you can adjust smoke output

OK.  Tilting definitely helped.

I don't see anything that suggests that the smoke is variable on the app?   Do you need a legacy base for that to appear?

Thanks,

John

I thought there was an adjustment on the app but I'm wrong.

You need the base to adjust smoke output but it sounds like to me you do not have enough fluid in it. 15 drops is not enough for a newer fan driven smoke unit. I would add 10 more drops and see what you got. I do recall a past thread about these being difficult to get the fluid to the right place. My experience with my Legacy locomotives is the smoke seems to be defaulted to high. Mine smoke like my MTH locomotives. I am not using a base either. Just the app or universal remote.

Brad

Well,

I gave the Legacy engine to my grandson for Christmas and we ran it on the Legacy Cab 3 I bought.  He loved it, but the first thing he noticed was the low smoke output.  We added fluid, but it seemed like the fan motor wasn't turning.

After he went home I took it apart and discovered that the rectangular funnel that carries the fluid to the smoke unit is at an angle and not parallel to the roof of the shell.

So I worked the funnel back and forth and removed it to get to the heating element and the fan motor (which is under the middle of the funnel.  The fan was stuck and I was able to move it to free it up and I also fluffed up the wick under the heating element.

I tried to find a way to glue the funnel back on the smoke unit differently, but I didn't see that that would work.

I looked like it was glued correctly so I glued it on the same way I found it.

With the rectangular gasket in place between the roof and the top of the funnel there is still a space.  It causes the smoke to come out in several other locations.

Seems like a bad design.  Has anyone run into this and found a workaround?  I hate to send it back or to Lionel because I have read other complaints about low smoke output with the GP30 and it seems like I'll just end up with another one with the same issue.  I would rather fix it myself.

Thanks,

John

Obviously, you need to have the smoke funnel mated with the stack opening without a gap.  I'd put a shim block right here that is the correct thickness to align the funnel properly and seat it on the shell stack opening.  It won't be the first time that a lousy design has had to be "adjusted".

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

Obviously, you need to have the smoke funnel mated with the stack opening without a gap.  I'd put a shim block right here that is the correct thickness to align the funnel properly and seat it on the shell stack opening.  It won't be the first time that a lousy design has had to be "adjusted".

Thanks for the suggestion John.  I just looked up the funnel part on the Lionel website.  Guess what it looks like?

Needless to say, the leveling block is missing from the bottom of mine. 

John

@Craftech posted:

Thanks for the suggestion John.  I just looked up the funnel part on the Lionel website.  Guess what it looks like?

Needless to say, the leveling block is missing from the bottom of mine. 

John

Look at that, Lionel heard me.   It sure did look like it should have one of those.