Koh's Hudson

Whew,  that's BEAUTIFUL....

Gee, I wonder how many Lincoln Logs that will plow through 

Original Price: $3,200US

 

It better be nice

Where's the crew?!?!?!

 

Just kiddin.  WOW, what fine detail they've applied to that engine.  Erik, is there a better photo of the booster engine, I'd like to get a good look at it and all the piping?

According to some folks, it's a toy like all the rest.

To me, the Kohs Hudson is all the proof anyone needs that some models are not toys.

It makes no difference where it runs or how it is used.

Scale model. NOT a toy.

 

I have spoken.

 

Mesuem quality model for the serious collector.

That is gorgeous...

 

Chris

Wow!! That is really nice

Obviously. Does it run nicely too?

I have heard there had been some running issues with some of the Kohs product. still a Korean drive and I believe the hudson was his first engine to come in with this much detail,perhaps someone who owns one can post.

I think the Kohs models are really beautiful representations of the prototype with super detail. 

 

However, With my crew of 8 "thumbs" operators, I think I would find a lot of detail laying along the tracks!

 

I think they are great models, but to me, they are not appropriate for an operating layout.

I have been using the Kohs Hudsons to compare my newly acquired 3rd Rail J3a against. They are without a doubt the finest Hudsons available in O gauge. However for me personally, at several thousand dollars and so intricate and brittle these models would be a liability to my sanity. The 3rd Rail model is already hard enough to keep pristine, let alone these things!

Although it's really beautiful, I have to agree with Nick.  I'd be scared to even handle that, much less run it!  I don't know that I can afford a $3,000 shelf queen.

 

However, it's great to look at when someone else owns it.

 

These models usually sell for around $4200

I don't find this model that fragile. I handle it like any other brass piece just the same. It has not been run but again I don't see why it would not operate just fine.

On the issue of fragility brass models are extremely forgiving compared to their plastic counterparts. It would be near impossible to obtain the detail to produce this model in die casting or hybrid techniques. PBL has done the best hybrids thus far and even with Jim
Booth at the helm he was forced to make cab walls 10" thick and fine castings a bit on the heavy side as far as a filigree and sharpness of detail. This model along with many of these fine pieces done over the years will likely never be repeated again due to the increasing cost of manufacture and diminishing market for far less quality models at a substantially lower cost. I agree that an inexpensive model that runs and looks good from 10" away is good enough for me but when it comes to historical accuracy and prestige I would take this model any day over brand X.

Beautiful photos of an exquisite model.  Thanks, Erik.

 

 

No disrespect intended.  Straight up curious.  Been wondering off and on for some time now.  Do any operators, as contrasted with collectors, actually run Kohs engines on their layouts on a regular basis?  And if yes, man, what's the minimum radius for engines in this class? 

 

 It'd be great to see some video of Kohs engines running a nice layout-- with a consist of equally "museum quality" cars.

Thanks Bill,

 

No disrespect taken; this is not my model and I have enjoyed the privilege to photo it. I would not own this model simply based on it is not my region and road of interest. However I would like to own it simply based on its such fine example of the model builders art both in research and execution of the build.

 

Good stuff! 

 

She is available for adoption if anyone wants to add it to their herd. 

There is something for everyone in this hobby.  This is a great example of the very high end of collecting.  If you want absolute perfection and have the bucks, this is the way to go.

 

A caveat - this end of the O Scale hobby has not been wildly successful, for a number of reasons, so if you want something like this, get it now.  There may not be any more at quite this level.

 

Obviously - Opinion.  For me, I like my models rugged and inexpensive.  The big bucks are reserved for airplane parts.

 

Love the model, but having a couple of brass models, I just wonder with even more detail, would it be even more delicate.  Now, if someone's selling them for the price of a diecast, I'm in!

 

So, does anyone know?  Does anybody really run Kohs engines --on a routine basis -- on a layout -- pulling a consist.  You know --like us operators -- who enjoy running our stuff on a regular basis?

 

Reason I ask is because I don't think I've ever seen a Kohs engine --in person at shows or layout tours -- or in  videos -- or the like -- running on a layout.  Not even one time.

I'm pretty sure that "Christopher N&W" runs his Koh N&W articulated models.

 

Impressive, he even has double cabooses!   That's a lot of money rolling around that layout.   He must have a nice train budget.

Don't forget the 27 hopper cars in the train: 1 VGN battleship gon and 26 H series---likely all brass from Rich Yoder....   You can do the math at your leisure....

 

http://www.richyodermodels.com...projects-archive.htm

Thanks.  There you have it.  Two Kohs engines running beautifully pulling a top shelf consist on wide but not unreasonable curves on excellent layout.  Very inspiring and motivating.  Makes me want to try harder in my modeling. 

Sorry for a "me too" post, but saw a Koh's Y6 pulling a similar consist at an open house layout during the 2013 Chicago O Scale March Meet. The engine operated flawlessly and it was joy to see the valve gear and those 58" drivers churning furiously, not unlike a couple of egg-beaters!

      Also ran into a dentist a couple of years ago who was running a fully scale $3K UP Challenger on an overhead layout in his dentist office. Said he had a couple of thousand hours on the lcomotive, with no problems (although he may need some new tires soon!)

I believe you have made just too big of a simplification. I'll bet there are MANY more 2-Rail O Scale modelers that operate their high-end models, that do not even view this forum, nor post here.

I know at least two guys who have tried the Kohs variety, and have gone on to Key, modified by Gary Schrader.

 

I do not care much for this end of the hobby, but my impression is that the more expensive models have more operational problems.  That is, as usual, an impression based on comments of others, and not a statement of fact.

I'd love to own a few Kohs locos.  Unfortunately for me they are not something that could be converted to P:48.

 

I'm sure someone will object to the unqualified "not something that could be converted"... but I'd love to see a Kohs GG1 converted to P:48.

 

 

 

Having converted quite a few models to 2- rail and my own attempt at matching gauge to scale, I am not sure I see why a Kohs model could not be converted.  Are the drivers hardened steel, or something?  Even so, you could find other drivers to machine and drop in there.