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Originally Posted by Daviddp:

Having problems using Lash-up.  Followed directions: Went to READ first (as per manual) to search engines and constantly got the following message:  "Found TIU Address/with O AIU Boxes Connected."  Never had this message before. Generally no problem with Lash-up.

That is an odd message davidp..i make sure via read or scroll through active or inactive all engines are there and then build my MU's. Takes me about a minute and then some extra time for member settings. I am REV L 4.2 ps2 and ps3.

David,

 

That's a perfectly correct message to get for a READ command.

 

READ does the following:

  • All engines on powered tracks are sent to the Active Engine List and those on non-powered tracks are sent to the Inactive Engine List
  • All of the TIUs that are in thew remote that issued the READ command are queried and each on is designated as FOUND or NOT FOUND. If found, the number of attached AIUs is reported.

It is not necessary to perform a READ prior to building or operating a lashup.

 

This and a whole lot more is all in the The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition", available for purchase from many fine OGR advertisers and forum sponsors, or as an eBook or a printed book at MTH's web store!

 

 

Originally Posted by josef:
Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

Probably using the wrong kind of rope in your lashup...

And your reply accomplishes what?

No matter what hobby or field you're in, you need to learn the correct terms to communicate with experienced users. There are many real RR's here. It's just a term that brings out a lot of jokes, that's all.

 What if your boss on the job told you to go change out the "   ". You'd have to know what he meant!

Originally Posted by Engineer-Joe:
Originally Posted by josef:
Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

Probably using the wrong kind of rope in your lashup...

And your reply accomplishes what?

No matter what hobby or field you're in, you need to learn the correct terms to communicate with experienced users. There are many real RR's here. It's just a term that brings out a lot of jokes, that's all.

 What if your boss on the job told you to go change out the "   ". You'd have to know what he meant!


Don't you have to blame MTH for that? Is Lash-up not the term used in DCS? 

These are toy trains, number 1. As to terms, lash-ups, cabooses rather then cabins etc. I have 2 family members that worked for railroads in the mid-west. I grew up between the Milwaukee rd, NYC, only separated by a block. Every evening at Simpsons Restaurant the crews would stop to eat supper. They used the terms caboose, lash-up of engines, etc. All the wrong terms by standards here. Yet they were real railroad men. As are my 2 brother-in-laws who also use the terms. I still own and farm. Going to the Grain elevators, I still hear the engineers saying they have more then 1 engine lashed up for the haul over the radio.

Accept both, like someone replying with a yes, or yeah, which is proper English? I find it very offensive when instead of just answering the asked question, one has to resort to  humour which belittles the askers, and which doesn't help to add newcomers to the hobby. 

Coming from a Moderator, is especially not in keeping with the hobby, nor someone of distinction. It also does little to promote the advertisers here, nor the Hobby.

Originally Posted by josef:

These are toy trains, number 1. As to terms, lash-ups, cabooses rather then cabins etc. I have 2 family members that worked for railroads in the mid-west. I grew up between the Milwaukee rd, NYC, only separated by a block. Every evening at Simpsons Restaurant the crews would stop to eat supper. They used the terms caboose, lash-up of engines, etc. All the wrong terms by standards here. Yet they were real railroad men. As are my 2 brother-in-laws who also use the terms. I still own and farm. Going to the Grain elevators, I still hear the engineers saying they have more then 1 engine lashed up for the haul over the radio.

Accept both, like someone replying with a yes, or yeah, which is proper English? I find it very offensive when instead of just answering the asked question, one has to resort to  humour which belittles the askers, and which doesn't help to add newcomers to the hobby. 

Coming from a Moderator, is especially not in keeping with the hobby, nor someone of distinction. It also does little to promote the advertisers here, nor the Hobby.

Its not trivial when the answers belittle someone.

Getting back to the original issue, I've learned on this forum never to use the READ button once all your engines are on the active list.  I used to use it and very often, any number of engines that were on powered tracks could not be found.  Since I've stopped using it, any engine on a powered track starts up when commanded to do so.

Prior to DCS 4.20, if one was operating under Super TIU mode, there was a bug that could rear its head whenever READ was pressed.

 

As expected, all DCS engines not on powered tracks would go into the Inactive Engine List. However, this bug then prevented the engines from ever coming out into the Active Engine List if they were on a track connected to a TIU other than the one they were last associated with, i.e., where they were when they were added to the DCS Remote.

 

While there were two workaround remedies to this problem, neither was satisfactory. This also became an issue when a lashup was to be started up. If a member engine was in the Inactive Engine List and was on a powered track connected to the "wrong" TIU, selecting the lashup would yield a message that the member engine could not be found.

 

Fortunately, this bug was slain in DCS 4.30.

Last edited by Barry Broskowitz
Originally Posted by willygee:
Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

Probably using the wrong kind of rope in your lashup...

Multi Unit, MU....i dont know why the term lashup annoys me but it does I sense a verbal lashup from Barry comingoopps sorry this doesn't really address this post but the previous poster started this.

 

Originally Posted by aznjbill:

In the future the moderator better not have a sense of humor.Lightening up people

Probable because of post like this, and who knows how many more would have chimed in.

Like it or not, Model Manufacturers use the terms, "real" railroaders have been known to use the terms.

By now we all know what's meant, accept it, and move on, rather then trying to impose our ways onto others. Right or wrong terminologies, they are and have been accepted and their meanings well known.

It would have been much easier to just answer the question, and then maybe add. We're grown-ups, lets not treat others as kids as they come aboard.

Nuff said from this end. I spoke were I felt on a matter/subject, time to move on.

Last edited by josef

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