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I just unpacked my LCCA 2015 B&M caboose only to encounter three quality control issues.

 

1.  First and foremost, the smoke unit did not have a wadding  The resistor becomes cherry red in short order

 

2.  The smoke on/off switch slides back and forth, but is stuck in the on position.

 

3.  A truck C retaining clip was not properly gauged, thus slipping off  its post and allowing the truck to fall from the metal frame.  Parts were in the plastic bag that protects the caboose.

 

Although it is a bit of a PIA to RR the caboose body, I suggest that if you have this item you check the smoke unit before applying power.

 

Chris

 

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Originally Posted by Grampstrains:

Sounds like more junk from China and I don't mean boats.

Perception is everything.  In my early childhood years (the 60's), it was common to view lots of stuff made in Japan as junk.  Oh how things changed a couple of decades later.  By the time I was ready to buy a car, Japan had done a complete 180 in terms of quality perception.  So much so, it rocked the US auto world in Detroit.

 

Unfortunately for toy train makers, I think we're heading in the wrong direction (again)... this time with goods made in China.  Although not universal, the perception of "made-in-China" being equated to junk seems on the rise, and a serious QA program is in order.

 

David

Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:

Unfortunately for toy train makers, I think we're heading in the wrong direction (again)... this time with goods made in China.  Although not universal, the perception of "made-in-China" being equated to junk seems on the rise, and a serious QA program is in order.

 

David

Athearn, Walthers and Rapido Trains don't seem to have quality issues with their Chinese builders.

 

Rusty

 

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:

Unfortunately for toy train makers, I think we're heading in the wrong direction (again)... this time with goods made in China.  Although not universal, the perception of "made-in-China" being equated to junk seems on the rise, and a serious QA program is in order.

 

David

Athearn, Walthers and Rapido Trains don't seem to have quality issues with their Chinese builders.

 

Rusty

 

That's why I said it's not a universal perception.  But let's also call it like it is.  Stuff is produced in China now largely because that's where companies feel the cheapest cost of production exists.  When that changes, another country will be found to make the cost equation more favorable.  It's the way of the world.  Cheap doesn't always equate to best quality though.  Good enough?  Perhaps.  Best?  Not likely. 

 

Most folks here would probably admit the quality of our Korean-made trains was a step up from the current Chinese built trains.  This isn't unique to O-Gauge trains, as I've heard the same concern voiced by many folks in the Standard Gauge world too.  Although I've been lucky with the tinplate trains I've purchased thus far, some folks have encountered paint-chipping issues much more now than when products came from Korea.

 

About a year ago, many of us took delivery of scale Berkshire locomotives whose front wheel bushings came off as soon as the locomotives were removed from their packaging.  The locomotives didn't even make it onto the track.    That's another example of poor quality control.  Lionel responded quickly for customers who called in their problem, but stuff like that shouldn't happen in the first place if quality is  emphasized in production.

 

David

The Chinese or Koreans or whomever will make the product as good as you want them to. The problem started years ago when bean counters decided it was more cost effective to replace the odd one instead of making sure that they all worked properly. Thompson-Center firearms used that model and  their repair/replacement service was second to none. They were able to fool people into thinking it was a good thing.

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