Legacy 119 And Jupiter With Bluetooth

The latest offerings have a Bluetooth On / Off switch but looking at the manual, it doesn’t appear to have Bluetooth. Can you confirm it does?  It should have the Bluetooth logo on it and the box.

@MartyE posted:

The last eat offerings have a Bluetooth On / Off switch. Probably on the tender.

I thought that would be the case. I flipped it over, but do not see a switch.

I’m not seeing Bluetooth as a feature in the manual. It doesn’t even discuss the app.

This is the underside.

@MartyE posted:

I’m not seeing Bluetooth as a feature in the manual. It doesn’t even discuss the app.

The manual is pretty poor in my opinion. It says Bluetooth on the box and shows a Bluetooth symbol on the bottom on the legacy sticker on the tender.

This is the brass hybrid?  What’s the item number?

@MartyE posted:

This is the brass hybrid?  What’s the item number?

1931660

Try the opposite side from where the program run switch is on the tender. See if there is a Bluetooth on / off switch there.

@MartyE posted:

Try the opposite side from where the program run switch is on the tender. See if there is a Bluetooth on / off switch there.

Nothing else pops open.

Other than not having Bluetooth, I can’t think of anything else. I don’t have one so we’ll have to see if someone else chimes in. The manual has no reference to Bluetooth so I am suspecting it doesn’t have it.

It shows as having Bluetooth on the box.

No mention of it in the catalog description either. I’m betting it doesn’t have it but without having one that’s only a guess.

I am also trying to run conventionally and am not getting any sounds.

Alright.  I am convinced after reviewing some other sources this is Legacy, Conventional, and DCC only.  I could be wrong but cannot find anything to state otherwise except your box so we'll have to see if someone else that own one will chime in.  As far as sounds go, the manual states no Bell or Whistle in conventional so I'm not sure if that is what you are referring to.

I’m not getting any engine sounds at all. Just forward and reverse. The engine is silent.

@John Ptak posted:

I’m not getting any engine sounds at all. Just forward and reverse. The engine is silent.

There are no sounds in the engine.  You have to have the sound passenger car.  Might want to read through the manual.

I have this set. It does not have Bluetooth.  Also , Lionel stated that  the passenger cars would have figures . They don’t .   I also thought the crew talk should have used the sounds from the Golden Spike Promontory set they did earlier

@Robprince posted:

I have this set. It does not have Bluetooth.  Also , Lionel stated that  the passenger cars would have figures . They don’t .   I also thought the crew talk should have used the sounds from the Golden Spike Promontory set they did earlier

Thanks for confirming.

@Robprince posted:

I have this set. It does not have Bluetooth.  Also , Lionel stated that  the passenger cars would have figures . They don’t .   I also thought the crew talk should have used the sounds from the Golden Spike Promontory set they did earlier

Thanks for the info. So in order to get anything (whistle, bell, crew talk) I need the sound coach?

@MartyE posted:

There are no sounds in the engine.  You have to have the sound passenger car.  Might want to read through the manual.

I’ve read the manual that comes with the engine cover to cover. It’s not very descriptive.

Just for the record, in the 2019 volume 2 , it does not indicate that they are BT equipped. There’s the answer. Sorry to be the one giving you the bad news. The catalog description doesn’t show that feature on the pages anywhere. They are simply beautifully made Locomotives. There was just enough room for the legacy control, Happy Railroading Everyone

Yes. You need the sound cars

i recall there was a delay since boxes were sent out with the word Bluetooth on them.

They also didn’t deliver the promised cars if you ordered  the loco set from the Lionel store.  They gave a discount instead

@leapinlarry posted:

Just for the record, in the 2019 volume 2 , it does not indicate that they are BT equipped. There’s the answer. Sorry to be the one giving you the bad news. The catalog description doesn’t show that feature on the pages anywhere. They are simply beautifully made Locomotives. There was just enough room for the legacy control, Happy Railroading Everyone

Well when the box and orange serial number sticker both have the Bluetooth labels on them the OP has every right to wonder.

@John Ptak posted:

I’ve read the manual that comes with the engine cover to cover. It’s not very descriptive.

The manual actually does a pretty good job explaining the sound requirements. When I was researching the Bluetooth issue it seemed to cover the engine and sound car well IMO.

@MartyE posted:

Well when the box and orange serial number sticker both have the Bluetooth labels on them the OP has every right to wonder.

The manual actually does a pretty good job explaining the sound requirements. When I was researching the Bluetooth issue it seemed to cover the engine and sound car well IMO.

The manual that came with the engine appears to be different than the one online, but that is neither here nor there.

@leapinlarry posted:

Just for the record, in the 2019 volume 2 , it does not indicate that they are BT equipped. There’s the answer. Sorry to be the one giving you the bad news. The catalog description doesn’t show that feature on the pages anywhere. They are simply beautifully made Locomotives. There was just enough room for the legacy control, Happy Railroading Everyone

I saw that, but there are also commonly errors in the catalog. For instance, the 2021 Big Book catalog online has a $200 difference in price for the John Bull set than what is advertised in my hard copy.

They should honor the 799 for the John Bulls

Eventually, someone will try to sell one of those boxes with BT printed on it as a "rare factory error". Start mortgaging your homes now lads.