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I am a fan of flat cars, all types. I find it curious that MTH has not offered a modern Premier nicely detailed (wood deck) flat without a load.

 

The scale Lionel flat with wood deck is very nice. I am not sure if Atlas, Weaver or K-Line have offered something along those lines.

 

Any other fans of flats either empty or with loads? What cars do you prefer?

 

Thanks,

 

Paul

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I like "Flash"'s comment.  And that hole bothers me, but all of those cars I kitbashed

into on-line only creosote pole cars, with the hole covered by the load.  I would overlay with thin scribed wood sheeting, otherwise. What I would like to see is a old photo of the prototype shipping automobiles or tractors on a flat car (I vaguely think I may have seen a photo of a load of steam tractors on a plain flat car)

There are some really great cars shown here, and I've gotten some good ideas on how to improve what I have. Right now, flatcars are the grandson's favorite, in part because of all the other vehicles he can put on them, particularly construction vehicles. After reading this post, I got the idea to put mine all in a train. So, now arriving on Track 1, "Focus on Flatcars."

I love flatcars because you can do so muchwith the loads on them: that can be a lot of fun making the loads and create a lot to look at on the layout. I have about a dozen of both Lionel and MTH scale cars.  I doubled up/removed the loads on seven of them to carry my collection of land-speed-record cars, photo below: a fantasy load, to be sure, but lots of fun.  At the very top, in the background, you can see part of my "War Train" which has 12 home made traditional size flatcars to carry toy military loads, which I made myself about three years ago.  

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Lee, your fantasy train is way cool. I remember being fascinated with the records being made and attempted at the Bonneville Salt Flats when I was putting together models in the late 60's and early 70's.

 

Everyone else thank you for the cool pictures and ideas. I need to look at the Trainman Flats - do they have sprung trucks?

 

SIRT, love your bulkhead flats (and the rest)

 

ProHobby, that is one massive modeling effort and outstanding results.

 

JD, do all the Weaver and Atlas Trainman flats have the simulated wood deck?

 

Thanks again gents, just the input I was looking to receive.

 

all the best,

 

Paul

Paul,

 

The Weaver flats have simulated planking made from plastic.  The Atlas Trainman flats are a little more modern, and if you want planking you need to add it.  Its not a hard thing to add planking One easy way is to take a strip of planking (from a craft store or hobby shop), score in lines and bolt holes and stain.  Its an easy 45 minute project. 

 

Here is the Trainman flat on the left from Atlas, and another on the right with the basswood scored but not yet stained.

 

 

Jim

I think a lot of the loads on flatcars on the market leave a lot to be desired, especially some that just look like some kid's toy plunked down on the deck.

 

I went through a phase over the last two years where I bought "runner" flat cars and made them into unique pieces of rolling stock.

 

Here's my first "kitbash" where I used a K-line airplane kit, a Lionel flatcar, some freight pieces from a bag of toys at Dollar General and some stripwood to model a retired fighter being shipped to a museum.  (Full details on this project appear on my website--click here to read that story.)  

 

historical aircraft on flatcar

Here's a more whimsical flatcar helping one of your shippers get crates of product to market in time for Halloween.  (Full details on this project also appear on my website -- click here.) 

 

 

milk duds flatcar

This is the most recent project, a flatcar loaded with pipes made out of a composite material.  (I haven't written up the details yet on this project.  A young saleswoman in Michael's Crafts was very helpful in finding a correctly scaled chain to use on the flatcar, too!)

 

 

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Originally Posted by jd-train:

Paul,

 

The Weaver flats have simulated planking made from plastic.  The Atlas Trainman flats are a little more modern, and if you want planking you need to add it.  Its not a hard thing to add planking One easy way is to take a strip of planking (from a craft store or hobby shop), score in lines and bolt holes and stain.  Its an easy 45 minute project. 

 

Here is the Trainman flat on the left from Atlas, and another on the right with the basswood scored but not yet stained.

 

 

Jim


Would you please provide some links or sources where I can get strip plankng on line?   Or tell me the model and brand of the strip planking you use for Oscale? 

 

thanks,

 

Phil

 

Another very large flatcar

 

This O scale railcar has 20 axles with a scale length of 156 feet over the couplers. The model is 39 inches long over the couplers. The depressed center portion of the model is a scale 40 feet long. The original GEX 80003 is a 20 axle railcar that has a load limit of 1 million pounds. The prototype depressed center flatcar allows for adjusting the load to either side to compensate for overhang on curves.

 

 

 

gex 80003 model 1

gex 80003 proto 1

gex 80003 proto 2

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by pro hobby:

I have modeled several heavy duty depressed center flatcar types.  These include several GE flatcars used to transport large transformers.

 

These are GEX 40005 and GEX 40011

 

 

 

 

 

Pro Hobby Nice work..

Where did you get the Transformers?I am looking to build a transformer and Electrical Panel consist being a former GE employee.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Lee Willis: I have about a dozen of both Lionel and MTH scale cars.  I doubled up/removed the loads on seven of them to carry my collection of land-speed-record cars, photo below: a fantasy load, to be sure, but lots of fun.  

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Paul,

Jim Canter in Indiana makes and sells a lot of different laser cut wood decking.

 

Lee,

Do they make this one? (Craig Breedlove's 1965 car I think)

 

 

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Originally Posted by ptalar:
Originally Posted by jd-train:

Paul,

 

The Weaver flats have simulated planking made from plastic.  The Atlas Trainman flats are a little more modern, and if you want planking you need to add it.  Its not a hard thing to add planking One easy way is to take a strip of planking (from a craft store or hobby shop), score in lines and bolt holes and stain.  Its an easy 45 minute project. 

 

Here is the Trainman flat on the left from Atlas, and another on the right with the basswood scored but not yet stained.

 

 

Jim


Would you please provide some links or sources where I can get strip plankng on line?   Or tell me the model and brand of the strip planking you use for Oscale? 

 

thanks,

 

Phil

Phil,

I've been offline, sorry for the delay.  I use regular 1/8" thick basswood that I get at the local craft store.  I cut the basswood to fit the top of the flatcar, then use a cutting mat that has 1/4" markings and I can quickly score in lines with an exacta knife. Then, I use a nail to simulate bolt holes where the planks would bolt onto the frame of the flatcar. Lastly, I then stain the basswood and glue it to the top of the flatcar.

 

Jim

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