"Santa Fe F3. Oh, wait."
Yeah - and where are all the NYC Hudsons? I ask you.
What? Oh.
(Actually, I think half of them are in my house - which means I'm 50% behind!)
An MTH RK Imperial NYC Niagara would open my wallet for sure.
In the trolley department, if I hit the Powerball and could underwrite tooling and production costs, I'd like for Philly to get a bit more love:
MTH Brill in pre-1911 PRT "Philadelphia Standard" colors (traction orange, cream and maroon):
MTH bump-and-go, likewise
Lionel Birney in PRT orange and PTC green (a'la the Corgi Birney)
Nearside and Nearside Center Exit in PRT, PTC and imaginary SEPTA paint schemes
Hog Island double end cars in PRT, PTC and Red Arrow paint schemes (can also be used for New Orleans, et cetera)
8000 series Peter Witts in PRT, PTC and SEPTA paint schemes
Prewar air-electric PCCs in PRT silver, PTC green, SEPTA orange
Wartime air electric PCCs, ditto
Postwar all electric PCCs, ditto, with new tooling (the MTH PCC shell is nicely painted but oddly proportioned) for both the 2100 series (two vents on pole shroud) and 2700 series (one vent on pole shroud)
Ex-Saint Louis and Kansas City PCCs
Brilliners
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Market Street Elevated 1907 cars
Frankford Elevated 1918 cars
Market-Frankford 1960 Budd cars
Market Frankford modern cars
Broad Street Subway 1928 Brill cars (Premium full-length and selectively compressed a'la Rail King)
BSS 1938 Pressed Steel cars (ditto)
Delaware River Bridge 1936 Brill cars (likewise)
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PATCO 1968 Budd cars (as built and rebuilt)
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Red Arrow:
1907 Jewett
Center Entrance cars
80 series cars
Double end Brilliners
PCC Suburban cars
Phila and Western 50 and 60 series cars, full sized and selectively compressed
Phila and Western Bullet cars, likewise
CTA and MFSE cars in P&W service, SEPTA livery
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Atlantic City:
MTH semiconvertibles and single truckers in AC&Shore colors
Nearsides
Brilliners (Miss America Fleet)
Shore Fast Line clerestory roof cars
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Single end and double end sweepers
Differential Dump and crane cars
Water sprinkler and sand cars
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Whew! Quite a list. Better start playing Powerball.
Mitch
Amtrak ACS 64
amtrak Acela
TGV
ICE
Eurostar
Rob Leese posted:Glad you asked:
What could the holdup possibly be?
Gee thanks Rob. Now I have to add two more!!!
Glenn Fresch posted:It's a long shot, but the prr e3b, one of the few 4 4 4 truck arrangement engines in the US would be cool.
Add to this the Virginian 4 4 4 4 truck electric.
Lou N
# Mitch is that all? (that list will keep me on the google search till bedtime)
sweeeeeet 
How about a UP Steam Turbine???
This is an Overland HO model.
Lou N
Lou N what a beaut! I guess at speed, through cow country, engineer was mor interested in getting cows-the-heck-outta-the-way, not catching them. 
TRACKS--KILL
After looking at all of the above beautiful and creative suggestions I almost feel a little lame with my humble request, but could Lionel please provide me with a Polar express Lion Chief Plus engine. Then I will finally be able to pull all of the add on cars I bought over the years. 
Miggy posted:Lou N what a beaut! I guess at speed, through cow country, engineer was mor interested in getting cows-the-heck-outta-the-way, not catching them.
They were actually a double A running elephant style, not back to back. It was a cooling air flow issue. The Overland Model units were >$1000 in HO. Check Google "UP Steam Turbine". There are some YouTube videos of the model and the real thing.
I can imaging this would be a Sunset 3rd Rail thing; probably not on too many people's hot list. Don't want to think what it would cost.
Lou N
Glad to see more votes for #90. I would guess 50% of York attendees, at least, have visited the Strasburg and some have ridden behind this engine. I have been expecting a march on the Mall in D.C. demanding it! (but not built on a govt. contract!)
gg1man posted:After looking at all of the above beautiful and creative suggestions I almost feel a little lame with my humble request, but could Lionel please provide me with a Polar express Lion Chief Plus engine. Then I will finally be able to pull all of the add on cars I bought over the years.
It is disturbing that Lionel keeps selling Polar Express add-ons with nothing to pull it. (and I'm not going to purchase the scale engine to pull the traditional cars.)
I would really like to see a really nice set of Legacy F3 Sante Fe's ABBA...The War Bonnet Series....
Miggy posted:# Mitch is that all? (that list will keep me on the google search till bedtime)
sweeeeeet
It'll be fun and rewarding.
Mitch
That is easy, Dreyfuss Hudson. I would like to see a Royal Hudson from the Canadian Pacific Railway as well. I think that would be a very elegant model to do.
Depending on the price....a reissue of the die cast diesels, especially the ES-44 EVO's. BigRail
This...
Have it on order! That's it no more!
A B&O Hudson in either Premier (Preferred) , or Railking.
Had the Railking, and sold it after a few years. Was a great looking loco, that ran well.
Might be fun to have one of these:
Mitch
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I would buy a Reading and Northern • 425 light pacific scale 4-6-2
A Prr EB3
Amtrak ACS 64
THIS is MONSTERISH, O the humanity!
sacrilege Mitch!!!!
Steamer posted:sacrilege Mitch!!!!
But think of all the gi-raffes it could pull!
Mitch
Another Williams SD45 
I would like to see a McKeen motor car. MTH cataloged it in 2011 V2 but it got cancelled. There is a very good article on the McKeen motor cars & engines (they made a few) in Railroad Magazine, January 1951, Vol. 53, No. 4. I had the opportunity to ride the one in Nevada.
Victor
maybe you could die the Gi raffes Brunswick.....
IF MTH did a PS3 F series Soo in the Red/White with black lettering I'd buy that!
Steamer posted:maybe you could die the Gi raffes Brunswick.....
(the gi-raffes look rather offended at this) ;D
Well MTH already made one, but I missed it. A GP7 or GP9 in my favorite road colors.
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I think they ought to do a series for current running steam engines and to expand on that, every steam engine that has been restored and on display, running or not.
Every 3-4 months bring out a new engine. I have no idea how many are out there but that would keep everyone busy for a while and make collectors happy. Even offer them without electronics (motor only) for display purposes.
John Pignatelli JR. posted:I would buy a Reading and Northern • 425 light pacific scale 4-6-2
A Prr EB3
Amtrak ACS 64
THIS is MONSTERISH, O the humanity! Blasphemy!!!
On my dream purchase list, a Lionel LC+ GG-1 in a variety of real and fantasy paint schemes, I will be pitching this thought to Lionel at York in April.
wtjohn posted:On my dream purchase list, a Lionel LC+ GG-1 in a variety of real and fantasy paint schemes, I will be pitching this thought to Lionel at York in April.
Tell 'em they're welcome to use my UP concept if they send me one.
Mitch
I don't ever say 'no more engines'. Perhaps just 'not now'.
Mitch , share photo please?
"Tell 'em they're welcome to use my UP concept if they send me one." Mines just green with faded stripes, and I luv her... first real heavy I ever had
Miggy posted:Mitch , share photo please?
"Tell 'em they're welcome to use my UP concept if they send me one." Mines just green with faded stripes, and I luv her... first real heavy I ever had
Scroll up a bit. ;-)
Mitch
(who will prolly do a UP GG1 build one of these days)
Okay, now let's approach this from the other side. You own a train company and you read through these frequent "wish lists," noticing there's very little unanimous agreement over any one particular item. How then do you justify spending $300,000.00 or more for new dies and tooling that has little chance of paying for itself because the production runs will be so small?
As pointed out on the first page by 86TA355SR, "When Sunset announced the 4-10-2 models the only one to get enough orders was the SP version." That's just one example, but IF Sunset cannot make the minimal numbers to justify production (and those minimal numbers from Sunset seem to be pretty small), why would anyone else, other than the addition of one of the proprietary command systems?
If you go over to the O scale forum, Scott Mann has posted extensively about the difficulties in getting product made, never mind the challenges of meeting minimal orders. It wasn't until they cancelled the Amtrak E8 (I think that was the model) that all of a sudden, orders started coming in. As Scott said himself in so many words, what people say they want and what they're willing to commit their money to, are two different things.
On the third page of this thread, OMAN pointed out an MTH Canadian National diesel already made by, that he missed out on buying. It begs the question how many did MTH make on the initial run and how quickly did they sell out? It they didn't make many and that run took an extended time period to sell out, you more than likely will not see it again. Mike Wolf is undoubtedly a train guy, just as he is a businessman who needs to turn a profit on products.
A couple of the train companies have already said you will never see the CNJ Babyface loco in O, because only one railroad had that, and the market for CNJ is not big enough to justify the costs... maybe, just maybe unless they did it as an approximate traditional model and offered it in Santa Fe, Pennsy and New York Central.
Just the premise of this thread... you already have too many engines, so what one would make you buy one more... is NOT a good sign to the train companies. If they're going to spend the R&D money to tool up a new loco, they want something they can sell a lot of, over an extended period of time, in a variety of road names, to appeal to the greatest number of consumers in order to get a return on the initial tooling costs.
As pointed out years ago by Ed Boyle in the OGR magazine article, "A Visit To Sanda Kan," even new paint masks are very expensive... don't argue with me over that, argue with Ed Boyle.
C.SAM's suggestion for a Bangor & Aroostook F3 in O gauge has come up several times that I've noticed. A nice looking engine for sure, but how many could they sell? And should it be O gauge or O scale? LionChief Plus or Legacy? Railking or Premiere? Then if MTH made it, there'd be the inevitable "that's nice but I'm going to wait for Lionel to offer it" sort of comment, or vise-versa. Or "I'm waiting for Sunset as they're the only one who will get it right."
WBB recently tooled up their plastic body 44 ton switcher and MTH, a die-cast body version. Many people for years on this forum, stated they wanted an engine like this, so the successful sales figures for these models will send a clear signal over whether or not new tooling for other models is justified. Neither WBB or MTH has recouped their investment in tooling with a single run of these locos.
Now the consumer is free to say, "well that's not a model that interests me." Just a people here are free to make their product "wish lists." But the train importers are equally as justified to not pour money into a model that will never return a profit. The train companies are not like the drive through burger joint or the coffee shop, where you can order it any way you want, and it'll be ready in a moment.
