Recreate Lionel Layout D224

RobertEOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

I have a friend/neighbor who with very little knowledge about O gauge wants to build a D224 layout. I got involved to assist, but soon learned that the layout uses Super O Track. He would like to use MTH trains with MTH track and I'm wondering if rubber tires will work since the original layout probably used magni-traction. Then there is the problem of track, but I think we could probably work that out. There are other issues, but first I wonder about the climbing capability with rubber tires. Has anyone had any experience with this type of project.

7/31/241:37 PM

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Mallard4468OGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Before getting in too deep, how about setting up a test version of the track plan (or at least the grades) on a board and see if the locos can handle the train?

7/31/241:53 PM

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RobertEOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Yes, good idea, but his MTH engine is a RailKing Genesis, very light. The grade on the D224 seems to be better than 5%. But my next move is to try and replicate the curved climb. Thanks for your response!

7/31/242:33 PM

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Susan DeatsOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Rubber tires on modern engines work better than magni-traction on grades. For tight curves just keep the trains short.

7/31/245:16 PM

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gunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

@RobertE posted:
Yes, good idea, but his MTH engine is a RailKing Genesis, very light. The grade on the D224 seems to be better than 5%. But my next move is to try and replicate the curved climb. Thanks for your response!

If it's really light, adding some weight might be called for. I have the Lionel Separate Sale HHP-8 Locomotive. Initially, I noticed it couldn't pull that much up the grade, even though it has plenty of motor power, it was spinning it's wheels with passenger cars in tow.

I added a pound of weight, it was like night and day, it's a pulling champ now, and no sweat at all on the grades.

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7/31/245:22 PM

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RobertEOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Thank you John, I believe that is exactly what I need to do. With very little room next to the electronics, adding weight could be a challenge. However, it looks like you solved the problem, what are the small weights and where can I find them. Bob

8/2/2412:06 PM

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DarrellOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Lol, he used lead bullets!

8/3/244:28 PM

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Mallard4468OGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

@RobertE posted:
Thank you John, I believe that is exactly what I need to do. With very little room next to the electronics, adding weight could be a challenge. However, it looks like you solved the problem, what are the small weights and where can I find them. Bob

@Darrell posted:
Lol, he used lead bullets!

You can source bullets from anyplace that sells reloading supplies. Get the cheapest lead bullets you can (not plated or jacketed). Other options include fishing weights and automotive wheel weights. Wheel weights have the additional benefit of having the adhesive already attached.

8/3/246:49 PM

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