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Hi all, new to the forum and to model trains.

I bought a used Santa Fe 8352 Diesel Engine, which was not working. I took apart and cleaned the motor and armature. I was able to clean the copper armature, brushes, and e unit and I was able to get it to move and fire the lights up. However, the vertical engine on forward will only drive 12-14 inches and the motor seems to pop out of gear and revs on high without the train moving anymore. It seems a little better in reverse however does the same after a loop around the track. This is also without pulling any cars. 

It seems as if the worm gear is popping out of gear. The power truck is stamped "8250-125".

I noticed that the plastic gear that the drive shaft is attached to also slips and has fallen out. I have pushed this back on.

The worm wheel and worm axle is not locked in, the worm wheel spins freely, it seems like it needs a locking mechanism?

I tried screwing down the set screw on the plastic brush plate but this did not work. There is no other washers or bearings to adjust or replace.

Any ideas?

Can I rebuild this unit or just look for a new/used power truck to replace this one.

This site has been a terrific forum for information.

Thanks in advance for any information or help you can provide.

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I don't see any worn gears, this actually looks like a very low hours diesel. 

The nylon gear(8010-116) slipping off the drive axle is a common problem(when it stays on, it indexes the worm wheel to the worm). You can epoxy it to the shaft after cleaning all grease & oil off both parts or replace it. 

Rarely do both gears slip on that drive axle. The worm wheel looks like brand new.

Thank you sirs for your replies. I agree that epoxy would be hard to get to stick and cure to the gear. Anyone know how I could find this brass gear? I also agree that the gears are not worn, just not pressed on properly.

If I am hearing you correctly. I would take out the sideframes, and slip on the new brass gear that should be a better replacement and hopefully hold its place. Once I have the sideframes off I could also better secure the worm wheel onto the axle, maybe use some epoxy here. This should keep all gears tight and secure in place.

It's my impression that at least some of those worm axles are stepped on both ends. The axles that are made this way cannot be pressed out by pushing on the end with the spur gear.
Nor can they be pressed out by pushing on the opposite end. 

Attached below is a photo lifted from EBay that shows the step that prevents it from being pressed out by applying pressure from the gear end.

I've broken a few tools when I forgot about this, and the axle couldn't be pressed out.
How do people get them apart?
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The gear cannot be on the axle when installed. The axle gear must go through the truck frame first, then the gear installed then through the truck frame and the drive gear attached to the knurled spline. It can't be installed the way the picture shows. Besides, you really don't want the fiber gear shown if you plan on operating the engine.

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