The ones I have mentioned in an earlier post from McMaster Carr are Vessel.
McMaster Carr, if they don't have it you don't need it.
Pete
Norm Charbonneau posted:Are the Wiha ones even JIS? I got the $20 Hozan JIS set off eBay and they work quite nicely. Can’t believe I had gone so long without a proper JIS set.
I went with the same Hozan set from Amazon, $17.59. The 4 screwdrivers cover all of the popular JIS sized screws on our trains.
I also ordered the Wihia magnetizer as well $5.68, to maganetize the screwdrivers. This thing is phenominal!
A "must have "to remove recessed screws like the ones holding the shell on my Lionel N5 caboose.
A bottle of canopy adhesive to reglue my loose window and my caboose is all fixed.
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What about mini nut drivers?
I can’t seem to find them anywhere.
I’m talking about ones small enough for HO Rivarrosi steam locomotive side rods etc for example
Al
hi check harbor freight I seem to remember they sell small wrench sets you can use for trains sae and metric!
Vessell makes sets of precision screwdrivers (including JIS) and nutdrivers, and they are very nice. I have the TD56 set, but I'd like to get more to expand the capabilities. Nutdrivers are also available in the WIHA master technician set which is fantastic. If you keep watching the sales you should be able to get a better price than what is showing now.
Mike A.
albertstrains posted:What about mini nut drivers?
I can’t seem to find them anywhere.
I’m talking about ones small enough for HO Rivarrosi steam locomotive side rods etc for example
Al
Wiha has some small nut driver sets, both SAE & Metric, good stuff. I don't know how small those HO parts are, but also check the RC car hobby shops, they use small nuts & bolts as well. There are also quite a few RC car shops online. AMain Hobby, RC Superstore, RC Planet and Horizon Hobby some to mind just now, and there are more. I think my grandson and I have used all of those for one thing or another.
And Micro-Mark may have something also.
Jeweler's nut drivers sets. The local eye doctors have always been very helpful with little tools and set recommendations.
Graingers nut driver singles; Westwood is listed for under $2 for 3/32. wiha more than twice that there. Nothing under 4mm for metric.
I've used a dial caliper as a monkey wrench to tighten. Carefully, not on the lever but held the jaws (and lock wheel)
when looking for good technician tools , chek to make sure the are ISO CERTIFIED . tools that are iso certified , work the same on all screws and nuts .Wiha tools are iso certified , that is the brand i use . ISO was created , to prevent all the confusion in manufacturing and quality control , every iso certified company uses all the same quality standards ,and inspection processes . ISO WAS CREATED BY A GERMAN COMPANY USING GERMAN HIGH QUALITY STANDS . TECHMAN
Alan Mancus posted:hi check harbor freight I seem to remember they sell small wrench sets you can use for trains sae and metric!
craftsman also has tiny ignition wrenches available in metric and standard.....they can get you out of a bind in a hurry....makes spot fastener inspections a breeze...
Bought Moody JIS drivers; well made, but,they have very slender handles; don't know how well they will work on screws that have loctite on them.
RickM46 posted:Bought Moody JIS drivers; well made, but,they have very slender handles; don't know how well they will work on screws that have loctite on them.
In a "Loctite" situation like this, I would caution anyone that they are asking for a sheared screw unless they apply some heat to help break the bond before trying to remove the screw. Been there, up and down both sides of that street!
It only needs like 3-9 seconds to heat something that small hot enough to soften locktight. You don't dont need red hot either. I find a soft butane lighter mini torch flame to be very effective on slowly raising temp. A sharp flame tip tends to deflect on small heads and heats a background surface more...(paints?)
Stuck without heat, inducing shock might work; sharp taps.....
.....if the screwdriver tip doesn't shatter 
Thanks Big Jim and Adriatic. Also, in a Loctite situation, there is this post by Norton:
The Niagara will take more than a few seconds of heat if its applied to the top of the screw. The bearing inserts and rods provide a big heat sink before the heat reaches the threads. I was able to apply heat right on the boss on the wheel that the screw threads into using some resistance soldering tweezers. You may be able to get a fine soldering tip in there but using a torch would be risky as it may damage the plating/coating on the rods.
Also don't assume just because an item is made in Asia that the screw heads are JIS. I tried a JIS screwdriver in the Niagara rod screws and found a phillips fit better. The JIS driver would have rounded off the screw socket.
Pete
WiHa works best for me and their metric nutdrivers are also excellent. I also use their hexdrivers occasionally. Of course, they mate well with my LGB! Jawohl!
Norton posted:The Niagara will take more than a few seconds of heat if its applied to the top of the screw. The bearing inserts and rods provide a big heat sink before the heat reaches the threads. I was able to apply heat right on the boss on the wheel that the screw threads into using some resistance soldering tweezers. You may be able to get a fine soldering tip in there but using a torch would be risky as it may damage the plating/coating on the rods.
Also don't assume just because an item is made in Asia that the screw heads are JIS. I tried a JIS screwdriver in the Niagara rod screws and found a phillips fit better. The JIS driver would have rounded off the screw socket.
Pete
aint that the truth Pete!....just cause its Asian manufactured does not automatically make it JIS....depends on that week's vendor for screws!
Just to add to the mix, I purchased a nice set of small screwdrivers at Lowe's under the "Husky" brand. The smaller Phillips sizes compare to my WiHa drivers, but they have larger handles for greater torque. I even have a set of LGB flat screwdrivers, and have discovered my Excelite flat driver actually fits some of the LGB screws better! Go figure!
Screwdriver sets on my workbench today.
Taking apart RailKing passenger cars to install pre-painted seated figures.
From left to right.
1. Ace Hardware Store brand, being magnetized.
2. Cheap two dollar set sold at any hardware store
3. VESSEL / Set No. TD-56 / professional grade and over priced.
Well the best is the Ace Hardware Store brand and the cheap $2.00 set sold at any hardware store. Forget about the over priced VESSEL, sold on Amazon for about $15.00
Gary at his workbench.
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hello
I need to take a cw 80 transformer apart what set has the triangle driver to remove the screws?
kevin
kwisor posted:hello
I need to take a cw 80 transformer apart what set has the triangle driver to remove the screws?
kevin
Take this photo to your local,ACE Hardware Store, sounds like you need a Torx Screwdriver.
This sets sells for about $20.00, ask the clerk if you can use the in store $5.00 off coupon. If you have the ACE Hardware points.
Hope this helps; Gary
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Silverhill atktr4 for triangle screwdrivers, ebay or amazon
thank you
kevin
400e posted:Silverhill atktr4 for triangle screwdrivers, ebay or amazon
Ordered, I need some of these as well. Thanks for the post. Can anyone ever have enough screwdrivers? I haven't yet gotten there...
