Anybody know anything about this? Any photos of which prototypes would have probably been used in this mysterious train, if it existed?
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This news was posted here yesterday. It vaporized within an hour.
That was due to you political incorrectness
It was posted in another thread. I know that the Nazi's were running trainloads of art, gold, and other valuables out of occupied territories and into Germany and stronghold areas (like Poland) like crazy. Then as the Allies advanced, they were moving valuables as fast as they could to keep them out of the hands of the Russians from the east, and the US/Britain/French Resistance from the west. Rumors abound of secret stashes of gold and other valuables at the bottoms of lakes and in train tunnels where the entrances were dynamited. On its face, the story is somewhat plausible, but the proof is in the photo-documentation and authentication of whatever, if anything, they actually find when they excavate the site.
If such a train existed, it would have consisted of unremarkable rolling stock and locomotives, whatever could be commandeered.
Watch the movie "The Train." It would've looked a lot like the equipment used in the movie.
Rusty
I can't count the number of found 'armored train' stories I've heard over the years. There was even one of a Russian armored train found in Bosnia by some IFOR troops. The version I heard was a joint USMC/British Ordnance Corps group extracted the entire train (with a steam locomotive) and moved it... somewhere. Problem was, you could never find any hard data on it from anyone. Classic urban legend. No evidence, vague description of what and where it is, and all 'info' coming by second, third, fourth or fifth hand...
The media is buying into this, but it sure seems like they snuck some sarcasm into the story: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/...n-mystery/index.html The thing is, there wouldn't be tons of gold and explosives on the train. There simply wouldn't be a need to transport both. Blowing up the gold would just scatter it (and not all that far), so that wouldn't make any sense. No sane military would transport a treasure alongside any considerable amount of explosives (other than some grenades or man-portable anti-tank weapons in case of ambush), in a place where the Allies would have had full air superiority long before the train vanished.
Screen captures from "The Train: United Artists, 1965, MGM Home Entertainment 2005.
Rusty
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I heard these guys already found that train 
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Originally Posted by Casey Jones2:
I heard these guys already found that train
"Ya see what sending out all them negative waves did, Moriarty?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyh-JpWdGmQ
Kelly's Heroes, one of my favorite films!
Originally Posted by p51:
Originally Posted by Casey Jones2:
I heard these guys already found that train
"Ya see what sending out all them negative waves did, Moriarty?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyh-JpWdGmQ
Kelly's Heroes, one of my favorite films!
This is one of my favorites too. I love what song Oddball plays as they leave the wreckage of the railroad yard.
Stuart
They confirmed its finding. I will be fascinated to see the pics of this old train and find out what's inside it.
A whole lot of stuff "dispappeared". All that artwork was found under noses recently in a Muenich apartment, so anything is possible. I vaguely remember reading about
something dumped into a lake on the Swiss/German border. Of course, some of it
probably went east...far east.
Looks like we are getting closer to finding out if it is full of interesting treasure or just a big hoax!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...een-proof-radar.html
That will be very exciting to see what is in the train.
Mikey
Now that the politicians are involved, there must be some truth to it!
If there are ground-penetrating radar images, then the historical significance will be very high. I would imagine, though, that anything valuable and highly portable could be long gone.
Long-time rumors of a Nazi gold train seem to have been not substantiated by ongoing investigations:
Results of big dig for Nazi "gold train" revealed
Just read the story myself. I would think it would have been easier to sink a 6" well shaft above the site the GPR scans were "supposedly" taken and drop a camera on a cable down it. A whole lot cheaper too.
Seriously, a kid with a GI shovel could have dug down this far on his own by now. How can they not know what the heck-if anything- is down there by now?!?
Here are the photos that have been declassified so far:
Simon Winter posted:Here are the photos that have been declassified so far:
No see'em ?
The "Lost Dutchman Mine" in eastern Europe, and you don't have to worry about those signs warning you to look out for scorpions on the trails east of Phoenix. How many lost mine stories are there in the old west? I can visualize a train crew and its guards being mostly killed off in further progress of the war, and the few survivors either keeping the secret with the hope of getting back or getting caught up by the War Crimes trials. However, the Resistance was spying on everything, but they might not have wanted to mention such a train to the Russians coming from the east, or had that same hope that they'd get back "there" and become rich. Which they might not have dared do under the Russian-installed Communist government. That, of course, is "possibility". Did it happen.....not yet proven or disproven. Oh, a couple in Calif. were out walking their dog up a hillside on some property they owned, and discovered a buried bag exposed. They dug out more and found a quantity of gold coins, some newly minted when buried. I have forgotten details, but think it was hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of collectible coins.
Arthur posted:Simon Winter posted:Here are the photos that have been declassified so far:
No see'em ?
I think that's the joke.
Casey Jones2 posted:I heard these guys already found that train
One of the best theme songs ever.
Lionel modeled it years ago but were sworn to secrecy and renamed it "Pratts Hollow"
An article in this morning's Chicago Tribune states: "Last week two explorers - Andreas Richter, a German, and Piotr Koper, a Pole - moved in with heavy equipment and dug deep near rail tracks in Walbrzych, after comments by residents who said they had knowledge of the trains existence."
"Explorers' great hopes for finding a legendary Nazi 'gold train' in Poland appeared dashed Wednesday when, after digging extensively, the found 'No train, no tunnel' at the site."
Sounds like Al Capone's famous safe "live on TV" stunt by Haroldo Rivera, some years ago.
Well, we had a homeless man in Texas find a pot of real gold and $7,000.00 - - -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...less-_n_1594941.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/bu...000-gets-to-keep-it/
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ld-article-1.1095442
Simon Winter posted:Here are the photos that have been declassified so far:
"Ya see what sending out all them negative waves did, Moriarty, you vaporized the pictures!"
"Woof, woof, woof!"
Everyone seems to be looking for "Nazi gold", of course , but people are also looking for the contents of the Amber Room, which was a room in the Catherine Palace near Leningrad (now St. Petersburg), totally covered with decorative amber. This amber was removed by the Nazis, packed in a number of crates, and sent west as the German army withdrew before the Russian counteroffensive. It was sent as far as Koeningsberg, Germany (now Kaliningrad, Russian Federation), and kept in an old fortress, which was later destroyed by the Russians. Rumor has it that it was sent further west on another train before the destruction of the fortress, and that parts of this train were secreted in a Polish tunnel, the entrance of which was then blown up to cover its existence
I think that the existence of this train, or at least several boxcars of it, is more plausible than a train full of "Nazi gold", most of which is probably at the bottom of any number of eastern European lakes, if it exists at all. All of this is more plausible than the "Lost Dutchman Mine", or any number of other lost gold fantasies.
The truth is out there........somewhere.
Norm
Remember, we're dealing with the people who invented the First ICBM's( V-1, V-2 ). The First Operationally, fielded jet fighter, ( Me 262 ). The First Stealth Fighter, ( Horton 229 ). AND designed the First Intercontinental Bomber ( Horton 18 ), both Flying Wing configurations. If anyone could make a train disappear it would be the Germans.
Just because it is not where we think it should be, doesn't mean it isn't there. Personally I think it is a Munitions Train.
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Rusty
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Clarence Siman posted:Remember, we're dealing with the people who invented the First ICBM's( V-1, V-2 ). The First Operationally, fielded jet fighter, ( Me 262 ). The First Stealth Fighter, ( Horton 229 ). AND designed the First Intercontinental Bomber ( Horton 18 ), both Flying Wing configurations. If anyone could make a train disappear it would be the Germans.
Just because it is not where we think it should be, doesn't mean it isn't there. Personally I think it is a Munitions Train.
I could consider the V-1 a cruise missile.
The US scavenged all the V2s they could get-it was an ICBM. The swept wing on the US F86 Sabrejet was based on German designs. Marklin trains are good too.
Hi,
Well, the Germans were certainly out in front regarding missiles, but according to Wikipedia the V2 only had a range of about 200 miles. That's not an ICBM (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile). The Jupiter missile which we had in Turkey in the early 60's was considered to be an IRBM (Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile).
When I was stationed at Redstone Arsenal in the early 60's, we had many V2's. I saw some cut in half and the lower half being used to burn trash.
Dick
???? Did you meet Werner Von Braun who was the father of the V2 and we brought to this country. Our missile program was based on him. That was 200 miles more than what we had at the time.
Hi,
I never met von Braun. He worked at the George C. Marshal Spaceflight Center (NASA), which is next door to Redstone Arsenal.
The Jupiter IRBM that I mentioned earlier had a reported range of about 1500 miles.
You might find it interesting to read about Robert H. Goddard, America's rocket pioneer.
Take care,
Dick
I would think the best chance of finding a "gold train" would be to use WWI era railroad MAPS and see how they have deviated from what's left today. Find the missing tracks-----find the missing train!!
