Something very cool I had not noticed before now about the Legacy H7

Probably because the REAL locomotives don't have that!

I see hoses something like this in several photos of Alleghenies that I got in a web search, but can't find one of an real H7 to see with enough detail.  Regardless, that hardly matters to me.  This is a nice feature and interesting to watch the hoses flex and follow around curves.  I love it!

Lee,

Don't let Ol' Luke Warm fool you with his tongue in cheek. Flex hoses were quite common on articulated locos.

Thanks brownillini and Big Jim.  It really is fun to watch those hoses move as the loco mo ves into and out of curves - very nice: makes me want to run this big puppy more!

this is off a Challenger/ Samhongsa model which is usually fairly accurate...

 

 

pretty close, but a little less entertaining.

 

so do i take it Lionel painted a C&O H7 for UP?

sorry if it sounds like a dumb question, but i haven't seen an L catalog in years.

 

cheers...gary

There's a cure for that, ya know....I bet it doesn't swivel so nicely with 20-30 ore cars, or the like, behind her.  

Lionel catalogs probably haven't changed much since.  Still a few things I really want in each, along with lot of stuff I don't want, and all of it priced a bit higher than I'm comfortable with but low enough that I buy what I want anyway.   

 

Yes, the H7 is offered in C&O and UP in the 2013 catalog, and the UP version at least is very nicely done, too.  I have no idea of UP had any H-7s - I know they had some early 2-8-8-2s but not exactly what models.  But that is beside the point - on my layout it would be UP anyway so if this is a fantasy scheme Lionel saved me the trouble of repainting it. 

 

I have not tried ore cars (don't have many anyway) but this puppy pulls 30 scale reefers and a caboose with no problem, other than with that many cars behind it, at one point the loco passes  under the tail end of the train it is pulling as it come down to my lowest level and that also looks a bit bizarre.

 

Once you get over the extreme boiler stick out (I still find it annoying) and the fact that to run locos with it that extreme I have to "temporarily relocate" two buildings on my layout, this is a very sweet loco to run. 

This is the UP Chesapeake.  UP nomenclature MC-1 (MC=Mallet Compound)

 

Class	MC-1
Locobase ID	7483
Railroad	Union Pacific (UP)
Whyte	2-8-8-2
Road Numbers	2000-2002 / 3600-02, 3800
Gauge	Std
Builder	Baldwin
Year	1909
Valve Gear	Walschaert
	Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase	15.50'
Engine Wheelbase	50.50'
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase	0.31
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender)	87.04'
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle)	50475 lbs
Weight on Drivers	394150 lbs
Engine Weight	425900 lbs
Tender Light Weight	157200 lbs
Total Engine and Tender Weight	583100 lbs
Tender Water Capacity	9000 gals
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal)	10 tons
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) on which locomotive could run	82 lb/yard
	Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter	57"
Boiler Pressure	200 psi
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke)	26" x 30" (2)
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke)	40" x 30" (2)
Tractive Effort	85039 lbs
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort)	4.63
	Heating Ability
Firebox Area	232 sq. ft
Grate Area	68.40 sq. ft
Evaporative Heating Surface	6395 sq. ft
Superheating Surface	655 sq. ft
Combined Heating Surface	7050 sq. ft
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume	346.89
	Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation	13680
Same as above plus superheater percentage	14911
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area	50576
Power L1	5857
Power MT	262.08

 

Hmm you know I purchased a Lionel 2-10-10-2 with some flexible hoses that came with it. The instructions omitted explanation of their installation. I wonder. ..

Very interesting!  I've seen only one vision 2-10-10-2 and that was a couple of years ago, and I did not study it that closely at the time.  I looked just now on-line at a couple of videos but there is not enough detail in the images to see clearly.   If anyone has detailed photos of the flex hoses on that loco I would love to see!