Has anyone heard from Jason's Train Shop yet??
Keeping my fingers crossed that we will be seeing the MTH GS-4 Daylights by the end of this month 
I can't wait to see the Proto 3 version. Anyone else excited?
Originally Posted by Matthew:
Keeping my fingers crossed that we will be seeing the MTH GS-4 Daylights by the end of this month I can't wait to see the Proto 3 version. Anyone else excited?
Would the "Proto 3" version look any different than the "Proto 2" version?
Originally Posted by John Pignatelli JR.:
Originally Posted by Matthew:
Guys, I saw Mike Wolf yesterday and he said that the GS-4 Daylights should be shipping in March even though the site says they are due in February. I hope it comes sooner because I'm excited about getting these. I hope the matching passenger set ships the same time.
Yes it was January, then Febuary, now March, it is waiting in line for a slot to open up, He has a lot of european engines to make I am told. The new Gereman engine is supposely selling like Nickle beer. Ok, If I do not get it by March I am going to...wait some more.
I actually saw mike also about a month ago at trainland on long island and he told me same thing "march" I'm hoping he's just saying that because it may even come sooner. I also hope passenger set will be shipping same time as well.
Would the "Proto 3" version look any different than the "Proto 2" version?
Hot Water..not sure if they are using all new tooling with this model but I have a feeling the sounds might be a little better with the new 3.0 board.
Originally Posted by Matthew:
Would the "Proto 3" version look any different than the "Proto 2" version?
Hot Water..not sure if they are using all new tooling with this model but I have a feeling the sounds might be a little better with the new 3.0 board.
From what I have seen lately, MTH has not made any "new tooling", outside of European models.
Either way I'm excited when I get mine. It would be nice if someone did a side by side comparison between Lionel's new GS 2 Daylight.
Originally Posted by Matthew:
It would be nice if someone did a side by side comparison between Lionel's new GS 2 Daylight.
It wouldn't really be a real apples-to-apples comparison. There are visual differences between the GS-2 and GS-4 classes of Daylight locomotives. The GS-2 had an exposed cab (open in the rear) and the GS-4 had fully enclosed "all weather" cabs. The GS-2 has a single headlight, the GS-4 has a headlight and a MARS (oscillating) light above it. The GS-2 also had narrower main (connecting) rods on the running gear than the GS-4. The GS-2 also had smaller diameter driver wheels, although I doubt that MTH or Lionel factored that in with their models.
The Lionel GS-4 would be the closer comparison to the MTH GS-4, although the Lionel version uses the same smaller main rods that the GS-2 uses, and they got the Fireball logo backwards on the fireman's side. From what I've seen the handrails along the boiler also look a bit oversized to me compared to the MTH model.
The best visual comparison to size up the MTH or Lionel version is the Sunset/3rd Rail brass version; that one is the best in terms of overall detail and accuracy.
Originally Posted by John Korling:
Originally Posted by Matthew:
It would be nice if someone did a side by side comparison between Lionel's new GS 2 Daylight.
It wouldn't really be a real apples-to-apples comparison. There are visual differences between the GS-2 and GS-4 classes of Daylight locomotives. The GS-2 had an exposed cab (open in the rear) and the GS-4 had fully enclosed "all weather" cabs. The GS-2 has a single headlight, the GS-4 has a headlight and a MARS (oscillating) light above it. The GS-2 also had narrower main (connecting) rods on the running gear than the GS-4. The GS-2 also had smaller diameter driver wheels, although I doubt that MTH or Lionel factored that in with their models.
The Lionel GS-4 would be the closer comparison to the MTH GS-4, although the Lionel version uses the same smaller main rods that the GS-2 uses, and they got the Fireball logo backwards on the fireman's side. From what I've seen the handrails along the boiler also look a bit oversized to me compared to the MTH model.
The best visual comparison to size up the MTH or Lionel version is the Sunset/3rd Rail brass version; that one is the best in terms of overall detail and accuracy.
John, thanks a bunch for sharing all this with us. Actually, one of the reasons I went with the MTH GS4 over Lionels GS2 was the fact that the GS4 had the mars light which to me is something I love in front of an engine. I believe Lionel has gotten better but I also felt that MTH smoke units seem to have more smoke pouring from the stacks.
MTH Daylights where are you??
Heads up everyone!! MTH is now showing in stock so we should all be getting our LONG waited GS4s soon Keep us posted who ever receives there's first and to let us know what you think. Thanks!
Originally Posted by Boomer:
I have thought about it a few days and have decided to buy offerings from both Lionel and MTH. I use Legacy and DCS so system isn't a consideration. I'm a complete nut for big steam,especially SP, so I've ordered the three Lionel SP GS-2's and the MTH Black GS2 4444. I got a darn good price on these! IF MTH had offered the GS4 in something other than 4449 (I have the 3rd rail "Definitive GS4 model" of the #4449) I would buy it.
I don't have the Lionel Legacy GS4 #4436,I've been on the hunt. for that one!
I hope Lionel will rerun the AC-12 with Legacy and new cab numbers.
Your prayers have been answered ( AC12's).
Check out the new Lionel 2014 catalog
Originally Posted by daylight:
Originally Posted by Boomer:
I have thought about it a few days and have decided to buy offerings from both Lionel and MTH. I use Legacy and DCS so system isn't a consideration. I'm a complete nut for big steam,especially SP, so I've ordered the three Lionel SP GS-2's and the MTH Black GS2 4444. I got a darn good price on these! IF MTH had offered the GS4 in something other than 4449 (I have the 3rd rail "Definitive GS4 model" of the #4449) I would buy it.
I don't have the Lionel Legacy GS4 #4436,I've been on the hunt. for that one!
I hope Lionel will rerun the AC-12 with Legacy and new cab numbers.
Your prayers have been answered ( AC12's).
Check out the new Lionel 2014 catalog
I would love to Pr-order an AC-12 as they look great in that catalog but I pre-ordered the Visonline Big Boy so I have to watch my spendings..lol
I received my MTH GS4 yesterday did anyone else receive there's?? If so let's share out thoughts. So far I'm really liking this engine from MTH - it's my first GS Daylight.
Guys, here is a video of the new MTH GS4. Sorry for the low quality as I used my cell phone Galaxy S4. I have a much better HD camcorder but just figured my cell phone would be the quickest way. As you can see it's a really sharp looking/sounding engine.
Enjoy!
