Weekend tinplate photo/Videos 6/24/16!

Something a bit different. Sakai 301 locomotives and 302 tenders are not rare, but also not common. I have been watching Sakai for 10+ years and have seen one 301 in a individual box, minus the sleeve, but have never seen another individual 302 tender box. These are like new, boxes are good, with some repair work. The tender box answered the question of what model number to assign them.

Steve

So occasionally me and the family will make trades... I get something to work on, they get to make sure I sell it (bummer). Latest work:

This will be my first contribution to this thread. I've been spending more time on the Tinplate Forum and I'm really enjoying it. Thanks Chris for starting this thread each week.

For my initial post, I've selected my father's 260E from when he was young. This is the version with the twelve wheel Vanderbilt tender and chugger. The locomotive's original wheels had disintegrated to a point at which the situation interfered with operation so we purchased new wheels from Madison Hardware during a tour of the facility as part of the 1994 TTOS convention.  As long time customers of the legendary New Jersey store Hazlet Train Stop, we then arranged for Boyd Mason to rebuild the locomotive and install the new wheels. Thanks to Boyd, it runs as well as the day Santa delivered it to my Dad. 

Bob

This thread is always a great start to the weekend.  Thanks Chris.   Welcome CNJ - What a great start.  Keep them coming.

While the primary equipment running on the BlueBoard Central Division of American Flyer Lines is Pre War Flyer the management does grant running rights to other Lines.  Here are some photos of an Ives engine keeping company with a Flyer work horse.

Have a great tinplate weekend!

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Great looking trains this weekend. Some years ago for Christmas i made a presentation of EDOBAUD trains, near all the complete collection is presented here.

In a more US touch could it be possible to  identify the following pieces please.

Some of you have a solid knowledge about American Flyer, they are nicely litho pieces, the lamp holder on the engine is a repro from Olsen the original one whas destroyed. I would enjoy to have a year and maybe a name for the engine, it has no number on it and i didn't founded anything in the Greensberg. Many thanks.

Daniel

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Great looking trains this weekend. Some years ago for Christmas i made a presentation of EDOBAUD trains, near all the complete collection is presented here.

In a more US touch could it be possible to  identify the following pieces please.

Some of you have a solid knowledge about American Flyer, they are nicely litho pieces, the lamp holder on the engine is a repro from Olsen the original one whas destroyed. I would enjoy to have a year and maybe a name for the engine, it has no number on it and i didn't founded anything in the Greensberg. Many thanks.

Daniel

Greg might know more about the set itself, but the engine appears to be a 1096

Just a couple shots around the layout.

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Some of you have a solid knowledge about American Flyer, they are nicely litho pieces, the lamp holder on the engine is a repro from Olsen the original one whas destroyed. I would enjoy to have a year and maybe a name for the engine, it has no number on it and i didn't founded anything in the Greensberg. Many thanks.

Daniel

FRENCHTRAINS,

Its a bit difficult to give you exact identification numbers for your engine and cars.  I believe that they come from the 1928 to 1930 era. Flyer used a number of different add on pieces to their equipment at this time (bells, lights, pantographs).  This makes it notoriously difficult to match up your equipment to the illustrations in the catalog.  The Greenberg guides are still the best resources so far, but not all variations are pictured and there have been some additional variations discovered since Schuweiler did his work. 

Your engine is either a #3012 or a #3112  If you have the book  look at 3112(g)  I think its the closest to your engine.  I have an almost twin to your engine, but it has a #3012 identification tag on it.

The three cars are un-numbered but they  look like cars that were cataloged in 1929.  I have a bright red set and a darker red set like them.  I will have to do a bit more research.  While this engine and cars do  not appear in the catalog together,  Flyer sold special sets through department stores and other outlets.  The three cars that you have are listed as separate sale items in the 1929 catalog.

I will post some photos later.

Nice find!

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Some of you have a solid knowledge about American Flyer, they are nicely litho pieces, the lamp holder on the engine is a repro from Olsen the original one whas destroyed. I would enjoy to have a year and maybe a name for the engine, it has no number on it and i didn't founded anything in the Greensberg. Many thanks.

Daniel

FRENCHTRAINS,

Its a bit difficult to give you exact identification numbers for your engine and cars.  I believe that they come from the 1928 to 1930 era. Flyer used a number of different add on pieces to their equipment at this time (bells, lights, pantographs).  This makes it notoriously difficult to match up your equipment to the illustrations in the catalog.  The Greenberg guides are still the best resources so far, but not all variations are pictured and there have been some additional variations discovered since Schuweiler did his work. 

Your engine is either a #3012 or a #3112  If you have the book  look at 3112(g)  I think its the closes to your engine.  I have an almost twin to your engine, but it has a #3012 identification tag on it.

The three cars are un-numbered but they  look like a set cataloged in 1929.  I have a bright red set and a darker red set like them.  I will have to do a bit more research.  While this engine and cars do  not appear in the catalog together,  Flyer sold special sets through department stores and other outlets.  The three cars that you have are listed as a separate sale items in the 1929 catalog.

I will post some photos later.

Nice find!

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Looks like I need to review the other thread of yours on Prewar AF Greg! Either that or I have started to mix makers in my mind.

trying to run some tin,that I haven't for along time,,,,,the standard legionair from 2002,and the ogauge lionel red comet remake

great stuff guys! got this in this week. might be a while before I get to it. planning on a six drivered motor, and maybe a lengthened coffin tender like I did for my 1668.

First pic including today's new arrivals; a 116 station with the 129B terrace. Repositioned the PL passenger shed, and I like the look. Set two engines and a car on the tracks temporarily to check clearances. Been busy the last few days trying to see if I can have a double mainline on my layout table. Much track cutting and fudging will be necessary-which frankly makes me quite nervous...  *cross fingers* it can all fit together properly and actually be able to run the trains. If two loops can happen, I'm looking to add a 440C Signal Bridge and 440N switch board at one corner area.

3 of my favorites, all original and running great!!

Apple Green #408E

Black #260E

Black #763E

NJCJOE posted:

Just a couple shots around the layout.

WOW!!! What No. are the red bridges, please? 

Greg,

Many thanks for your informations. I looked in the Shuweiler book and founded it. Collecting American Flyer seems less easy than Lionel, there is so many variations and uncataloged sets and pieces that are not well documented. I bought this little set many years ago in France in an antique shop and the seller had no idea of where it comes from.

Kind regards,   Daniel

38 year anniversary gift  for working 30 years for GE my wife came through

By Classic Model Trains, the Reading Railroad camelback and passenger cars in standard gauge, one of my favorite CMT sets, love the colors!

david

Trainlover160 posted:

38 year anniversary gift  for working 30 years for GE my wife came through

Very nice!    My father in law worked for GE 40 plus years and I have been thinking about getting that car. 

Carey,

The bridges are from MTH. Made of plastic. Here is the link to the model number.

http://mthtrains.com/40-1109

Chris,

I have to tell you that the pictures do not do this car just as it is far better in person he would love it.

Joeg

Hi guys,

Swapped some plastic and cash for tinplate today and ended up with an interesting American

Flyer O Gauge passenger set from 1936. Unfortunately no locomotive.  Has the Keystone Pennsy tender and needs the 4629 0-4-2 loco, but might look good with the AF 2-4-4 streamliner.  Really don't care that much because it runs like a charm behind the AF 1218.

Also took photos of the cars with an AF 16 and Ives 3253  Here they are.

Lew Schneider

I recently returned to Hawaii after visiting my family in NJ for two weeks.  While there I had the fortune to meet up with NJCJoe who was a terrific host.  Joe allowed me to visit and see his great layout but there was so much more train signage and memorabilia to see.  Thanks Joe.  Here are a few shots running trains on my visit before my camera died.

Later in the week I met up with Nick D who owns the rights to the Junior Bridge Company.  He plans on taking the Junior Bridge O gauge bridges and upscaling them to Standard Gauge.  He allowed me to stop by and see the prototypes.  He was also a great host.  They were very impressive.  Here are a few shots.  He said the first to hit the market will probably be the girder bridge.

those look great Lew

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Collecting American Flyer seems less easy than Lionel, there is so many variations and uncataloged sets and pieces that are not well documented. 

Kind regards,   Daniel

Daniel, you can say that again!  Flyer has some wonderful and unusual trains, but collecting them even here in the States is sometimes a puzzle.  The advantage is that they are often less expensive than Lionel.

Thank you for your posts; you always have something out-of-the-ordinary to contribute, and I look forward to seeing what you have to show.

I appreciate the difficulty you have in collecting American tinplate in Europe; the opposite is equally true.  For several years I have been collecting the Edobaud freight cars; I have only three to show for my work, and six still to go.  It is sometimes disappointing to find one on eBay.fr,  only to learn that the seller will not ship to USA.   Arghh!

david

Hi David,

Get a friend in the EU (while it still exists) to transship trains for you.  Perhaps FrenchTrains can help.

Thanks for the kind comment.

Lew

David, thanks for your comment. I still have some pictures for futurs "weekend tinplate"  so keep in touch.

I also appreciate all your terrific work and gorgeous layout, it is great for me to see what you have done.

Lew is right, if you need some help with a seller who doesn't want to send you something i can help you. You have an email in my profile for contact. In fact i have done this very often with friends from USA and i am used to make parcels....  Even if today Europe has lost a major member it is not a problem at all to buy something here and send it to USA.

About train collecting i have some very good friends in your country so it helps and now with the internet it is much more easy.

Lew, it was great to meet you and discover your great Hornby collection, i hope all is still well for you and your family.

All my best wishes,  Daniel. 

CNJ 3676 posted:

This will be my first contribution to this thread. I've been spending more time on the Tinplate Forum and I'm really enjoying it. Thanks Chris for starting this thread each week.

For my initial post, I've selected my father's 260E from when he was young. This is the version with the twelve wheel Vanderbilt tender and chugger. The locomotive's original wheels had disintegrated to a point at which the situation interfered with operation so we purchased new wheels from Madison Hardware during a tour of the facility as part of the 1994 TTOS convention.  As long time customers of the legendary New Jersey store Hazlet Train Stop, we then arranged for Boyd Mason to rebuild the locomotive and install the new wheels. Thanks to Boyd, it runs as well as the day Santa delivered it to my Dad. 

Bob

Bob, 

  Once again, I see your father had a good eye for his locomotives.Looks like you have another gem there! 

 Tom 

Carey TeaRose posted:

First pic including today's new arrivals; a 116 station with the 129B terrace. Repositioned the PL passenger shed, and I like the look. Set two engines and a car on the tracks temporarily to check clearances. Been busy the last few days trying to see if I can have a double mainline on my layout table. Much track cutting and fudging will be necessary-which frankly makes me quite nervous...  *cross fingers* it can all fit together properly and actually be able to run the trains. If two loops can happen, I'm looking to add a 440C Signal Bridge and 440N switch board at one corner area.

 

 

 

 

Carey,

Your display is growing by leaps and bounds. I hope you are enjoying it and the trains.

Great Job!

JoeG

My tinplate weekend consisted of finishing the 514R pictured below. It started as a poor condition Ebay buy and now it's a very presentatble D&H red refrigerator car.

I also got around to repairing and repainting the Lincoln Logs Figures that also came from Ebay.

One guy needed a new arm and another a new hand. these were constructed from wire and 5 minute epoxy. After painting I think they came out pretty good. Not nearly as nice as new Barclay figures but I had fun painting them and even had my 20 year old daughter helping at one point.

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Some of you have a solid knowledge about American Flyer, they are nicely litho pieces, the lamp holder on the engine is a repro from Olsen the original one whas destroyed. I would enjoy to have a year and maybe a name for the engine, it has no number on it and i didn't founded anything in the Greensberg. Many thanks.

Daniel

FRENCHTRAINS,

Its a bit difficult to give you exact identification numbers for your engine and cars.  I believe that they come from the 1928 to 1930 era. Flyer used a number of different add on pieces to their equipment at this time (bells, lights, pantographs).  This makes it notoriously difficult to match up your equipment to the illustrations in the catalog.  The Greenberg guides are still the best resources so far, but not all variations are pictured and there have been some additional variations discovered since Schuweiler did his work. 

Your engine is either a #3012 or a #3112  If you have the book  look at 3112(g)  I think its the closest to your engine.  I have an almost twin to your engine, but it has a #3012 identification tag on it.

As promised, here are a few photos of my #3012

 

Here is a similar medium box cab from 1927 that headed up the Broadway Limited. Its the #3011

 

The three cars are un-numbered but they  look like cars that were cataloged in 1929.  I have a bright red set and a darker red set like them.  I will have to do a bit more research.  While this engine and cars do  not appear in the catalog together,  Flyer sold special sets through department stores and other outlets.  The three cars that you have are listed as separate sale items in the 1929 catalog.

Here are a few shots of the 1929 catalog page that shows the separate sale cars.

 

I will post some photos later.

EL CLASSICO,

You were pretty close in your identification.  The #1096 does look very similar.

Nice find!

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

What a great weekend for tinplate.  Thanks everyone for your contributions.

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Peteinkansas...thank you for posting the pics of the figures! I have some of those figures that Dad passed onto me,and I never knew who made them!

lewrail posted:

Hi guys,

 

Swapped some plastic and cash for tinplate today and ended up with an interesting American

Flyer O Gauge passenger set from 1936. Unfortunately no locomotive.  Has the Keystone Pennsy tender and needs the 4629 0-4-2 loco, but might look good with the AF 2-4-4 streamliner.  Really don't care that much because it runs like a charm behind the AF 1218.

Also took photos of the cars with an AF 16 and Ives 3253  Here they are.

 

Lew Schneider

lewrail,

That is a great set of Flyer cars, and I like the way that they look with the engines you  paired them with.

Here is what the set looked like as cataloged:

The streamlined engine also headed up a freight set in 1936

Thanks for posting your new acquisitions.  I think you made some good trades.

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Pete in Kansas posted:

My tinplate weekend consisted of finishing the 514R pictured below. It started as a poor condition Ebay buy and now it's a very presentatble D&H red refrigerator car.

I also got around to repairing and repainting the Lincoln Logs Figures that also came from Ebay.

One guy needed a new arm and another a new hand. these were constructed from wire and 5 minute epoxy. After painting I think they came out pretty good. Not nearly as nice as new Barclay figures but I had fun painting them and even had my 20 year old daughter helping at one point.

Beutiful work as usual Pete!    I have some of those same figures I repainted and have on the layout.   Love the color combo on the box car! 

Love this thread. Here is my Ives Passenger first time arrival at the newly installed Pride Lines Station.

Bob

Trainlover160 posted:

Carey TeaRose posted:

First pic including today's new arrivals; a 116 station with the 129B terrace. Repositioned the PL passenger shed, and I like the look. Set two engines and a car on the tracks temporarily to check clearances. Been busy the last few days trying to see if I can have a double mainline on my layout table. Much track cutting and fudging will be necessary-which frankly makes me quite nervous...  *cross fingers* it can all fit together properly and actually be able to run the trains. If two loops can happen, I'm looking to add a 440C Signal Bridge and 440N switch board at one corner area.

 

 

 

 

Carey,

Your display is growing by leaps and bounds. I hope you are enjoying it and the trains.

Great Job!

JoeG

Thanks JoeG, I think I'm running out of Std. Gauge real estate very quickly!! Too many ideas, not enough space on the layout!