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I have been researching the wiring of these switches and have gotten a ton of great advice from some very knowledgeable people on these threads and in my local hobby shops. This is my first question on the forum. This is also my first attempt at a   pre-permanent layout. I’m prepping for the day I frame the basement.

I have roughly 13, 022 switches and 2, 072 switches in my current layout. I have bench tested both the switches and controllers and matched them and installed them as pairs, using constant voltage, and wiring the 2 leads from the controllers to each switch accordingly. My question is this, are the switches getting the ground signal from the common bus wire that is feeding the track directly? Or do I need to have a separate ground wired from the center post of the switch to the common bus wire, or wire all the switches (center post) back to the controller panel ground as you would in a knock down layout?

my problem is the track layout is showing shorts throughout (continuity) ,all my power station and control station wiring is testing good in stand alone, but the track when wired in is shorting out.

I have tried isolating all components and troubleshooting down to individual track pieces. I have read somewhere that the bulbs may give a bad reading when not energized (resistance) and still I cannot find the answer I am looking for. My latest thought was the center post ground on the switches.
II've been a novice model train enthusiast my entire life and this is a first attempt at a permanent layout. I have been 1&1/2 years in the schooling of O gauge layout planning and wiring and decided to start off with more enthusiasm than knowledge.

I do have manuals and schematics along with an intermediate knowledge of electrical wiring.

I would appreciate any advice that would help move me in the right direction. Thanks!IMG_4967IMG_6161

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The switches ground through the track ground.  The middle ground post on the switches is to provide ground for the remote control.  The remote control grounds one of the 2 switch coils in the switch motor.  Straight or turn as needed.

If both lights are out on the remote control when the switch has power, the switch may be 1/2 way, neither straight or turned.   Or there is a contact problem in the motor part of the switch.

You could eliminate the middle wire running to the track switch.  You can run the remote control middle wires to the common ground and they will still work.   That is how one of my layouts is done.  I have 2 outside wires to the switches, and the remote control middle wire or ground goes to a common ground, 1 less long wire to run for each switch.

For testing for a short,  Disconnect all wires.  Test the center rail to outside rail.  No continuity if the switches have the remote power tap in place!  With no power tap in the switches, the light bulbs in the remote control show a continuity! It is not a short.  That is why I say disconnect all wires, even the remote controls, for track continuity tests.   Test each isolated power section.  Then hook up one power/ground wire.  Run the train,  Next hook up, run the train and on.   I just put up 77 feet of track and I checked all the track before installing.    A screw touching the center rail can give you a short.  Even a small wire laying on the track.   I got a scar from a pin that shorted the track when I was 6.  It got hot.   

Thank you for that information! It’s a process I have not tried as of yet. I will be testing according to what you have laid out for me soon and I will let you know the results.

I did wire my switches exactly as you first stated, grounding the controllers to a common that feeds the panel and used the center rail common track ground to feed the switches. I haven’t screwed any track down yet for testing purposes prior to final installation and I am constantly vacuuming and inspecting for FOD.

thanks again for the input, very much appreciated.

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