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For those that are just joining in on the discussion here is a little more about the prototype New York Central track pans in Rome, New York and our model of that facility:

In 2018-19 the model railroad group of the Central New York Chapter, National Railway Historical Society Inc. turned one of it's old eight-foot modules into a model representation of New York Centrals water track pan facility in Rome, NY.  Note you will see the the end of the track pans and how it was placed in between the rails on the railroad ties.  To the right, the railing-looking structure is actually asbestos wrapped water pipe that carried hot water to the pans during the winter to protect them from freezing.  The square tiles were placed to protect the track ballast from being blown away from the high pressure over-flow water from the tenders.

The Rome facility pumped water from the Mohawk River (part of the Erie Canal) using a steam engine.  The actual pump house was located down over a steep bank closer to the water.  The steam engine pump was coal fired via gravity from coal hoppers on (I believe) three track sidings on the north side of the 4-track mainline.  In our model we decided to show the coal bunker as that was also used in several other facilities along the route.

This short film is the New York Central track pans modeled on our club layout based on the Rome NY facility.

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This was a simple design I had come up with a few years ago. Good thing this was floating in my sent messages. The blue part is the pans, which the length is 6 foot, I think the whole length shown is almost 100 inches or so(hard to see on phone). I think if you were to model it to scale you would have somewhere around 15-17 feet of pans which I forget what the footage conversion is. I think the longest pans on record were almost 6000 feet long, someone can correct me even if it's me going back to my sent message as I think I said it to the person I was messaging. Have a look, take notes.

Oh, forgot, obviously there's a water tower there, the other building should house boilers and filtration as well as treatment.

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This short film is the New York Central track pans modeled on our club layout based on the Rome NY facility.

I made a reference to a video I saw on FB a few years ago about track pans. Oddly enough looking back at that video, it is of your clubs layout. A certain Time W. had posted the Niagara coming up to the pans. I thought those track pans and background details looked familiar.

BTW, if you haven't seen on the real trains topic about track pans, I posted a whole bunch of links to the Central's pans and engines using them, which I'm sure you probably have already seen anyway. Heck, can't hurt to watch it again, can it?

I made a reference to a video I saw on FB a few years ago about track pans. Oddly enough looking back at that video, it is of your clubs layout. A certain Time W. had posted the Niagara coming up to the pans. I thought those track pans and background details looked familiar.

BTW, if you haven't seen on the real trains topic about track pans, I posted a whole bunch of links to the Central's pans and engines using them, which I'm sure you probably have already seen anyway. Heck, can't hurt to watch it again, can it?

Dave, Thank you for posting those links.  Yes, we have watched all of them many, many times.  They proved valuable information in our efforts to build the model.  Visiting the ractual facility remnants answered a lot more questions we had that videos, books, diagrams, photographs and even the New York Central System Historical Society didn't or couldn't provide us.  I will post them in this thread so it isn't in violation of forum rules.

Two that stand out well are the still photo of 999 and the Atlantic from 1905 because you can see the pans pretty well. I also like the one where they show the scoop dropping down while the engine is stationary as it gives you an idea of how it works.

I had engaged in talks with someone at the Pennsy Museum, but things seem to disappear as 2019 came to a close. I think that a more in depth explanation will be an in person thing as they would allow access to documents pertaining to pans and such with a little monetary donation of sorts.

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