A friend of mine asked me to post this. He is a forum member but has a little bit of a hard time posting the layout area.Please help with some ideas.The room available for the layout is 24 x 9 with a 3 ft extension on the bottom. The extension can be adjusted a bit more if need be. He would like a fly over and min rad 072 for the at least the mainline/s. He has a 36" turntable he was thinking of using in or near the extension but not a deal breaker.Thanks!
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May I also suggest that the design be flexible...it seems it will change a lot. I think every 4 or 5 mos. LOL! Good to see you last evening Patrick.
Patrick thanks for posting the outline for me Vince
May I also suggest that the design be flexible...it seems it will change a lot. I think every 4 or 5 mos. LOL! Good to see you last evening Patrick.
Glad to see ya to.Alot of nice people there. Let me guess when you got home it ran fine?
Yeah Vince whats the start date on this layout?
I had to do some resets and fiddle but it eventually worked as advertised. Been fine since.
Vince,
What kind of track are you planning on using?
Patrick,
Nice meeting you sir at the Train show, hope all is well in your world.
PCRR/Dave
Pine Creek Railway the Greatest Masonic Logging Railway in the world
Patrick H I'll be useing ross curves and swithes also gargras flex trax .marty this is permanent unless I relocate. Vince
starting date around middle of march me again
I prefer the top of the 2 in Patrick's last post. It looks like you could get a nice run going. I 'm having trouble following though if you can run it as a couple separate loops to have more than 1 train going without a collision. I assume so but my brain isn't functioning 100%
Its called the stuck in the middle!
Pretty much how I've felt all day.
Ihate to say this but i agreewith Marty it looks like a reverse loop with a double main line this looks real good thiers enough aera between the two loops for me to stand up while I do bench work etc.Patrick H Iappreciate your help Vince
Patrick H,
My wife also likes #1 drawing but how many trains can I run safely? After all I don't know if you know this but my nickname is MD-Master of Disaster!
Take care,
Vince
Im just messing around, trying to give you some additonal ideas. Hopefully some others will have some ideas as well. How many can run safely? None or all. 
seriously though , ill color the track and take a look.
If you want to run just 2 or 3 trains in a circle .I ll try another one. I liked this one cause a second train can leave the station after the first . The first train can continue the entire layout with the second following far behind. The first one can wait in the reverse and or reverse or continue onand wait in passing siding or vice versa. So it can be alot of fun ,but not set up for individiual loops. I was just givin some ideas . Im no designer for sure. It a really long run if you add it up, Looks like around 200+ feet.
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Patrick H,
I'm not sure if I mentioned this to you but I do have a double crossover and 2 right hand 11 degree crossover.
Me again
PS Lou, what do you think?
Patrick H it keeps looking better and better thanks. Nick C. get your tool belt ready vince
I like the idea of being able to run one train, and then another running behind it. I also like the point made about how long the run is. But then there are guys who like to run loops. There are guys who like layouts with a ton of switches. Its all up to what YOU want to do with your layout and how you want it to operate.
I also know that when someone is providing me with a design of something that once I start to actually put it together then I get more ideas of my own. So I hope that helps.
Like Patrick said, Im NO designer either. Couldnt do it if I tried. Im a benchwork, track layin, scenery guy! Just my two cents though!
The only reason I suggest having at least having the "option" of loop running is to be able to have multiple operators, who may not be paying attention as well as they should, run trains without incident. Large crowds tend to have that happen. Maybe using switches this could be achieved to work either way. I do like having one train follow another and actually keep track but when a crowd comes it would be nice to have an option to throw some switches and segregate the layout.
You guys are good at givin ideas.
There you go 2 inside loop runner, then the 3rd loop can run 2 trains and interchange with trains in yard as well as send one inner and bring them out.You can connect the yard the way you like to run through .Sell the turntable and buy some switches. this uses the 11 degre cross and the 4way.
LOU THANKS FOR THE INPUT YOUR RIGHT ON THAT.ALSO WITH DOING BENCHWORK AND TRACKWORK DONT FORGET MOUNTIAN MAN vince
MARTY I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT ILL PROBABLY USE SOME GOOD IDEAS FROM PATRICK H AND SEE WHAT COMES UP vince
PATRICK H THAT LAST DRAWING LOOKS VERY GOOD IT HAS ENOUGH ROOM FOR A DECENT YARD THANKS vince
Vince did you rember to tell Patrich 6 inches center rail to center rail on your
spacing on the curves.
N Carp
n Carp no forgot to mention it thanks vince
Patrick H first of all I appreciate all your help I will use some of your drawings and incorporate them into my new layout, I'll take your advise and sell the turntable and opt out for more switches. again thank you also thanks marty and paul E. lou and n Carp thanks again vince
n Carp no forgot to mention it thanks vince
Cleaned it up a bit. 1st level will only have plywood under tracks where in tunnel.
4 independant loops,4 way used
yard,turntable,reverse
easy acccess.bridges, grades,tunnels
Can start by building the 4 loops, add rest later.
ALL O72 and bigger
First and second independant routes:
third and fourth independant routes.
All together and sperate.
Patrick
That last one is trick! Vince I think you have a RR. I really like it a lot.
I agree. This one looks great. Now everybody needs to get back over to my thread so that we can fine tune mine!
Marty again I agree with you this is getting scary vince
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