3rd Rail ALCO PA Rio Grande Black w Yellow Nose

Look at these!!!

I never liked this scheme on the PA despite it was the first and seen on the Expo Flyer frequently. It lasted for a short short few months on the new CZ in 1949. It is historic. Yet another Alco product wearing an EMC/EMD designed paint job. Thanks Santiago for sharing. 

I kinda like it - especially with Grande Gold in place of the cream.  Have you checked out the new Lionel?

Santiago,

I agree, I like that paint scheme. Maybe Scott could produce some undecorated shells. With your skills you could duplicate it. The pilot is the same design as the ATSF.

Ron

Guys, we only need 7 people to make this happen.

Bob, thanks but I am not willing to convert 3 rail engines to 2 rail. Too much work, very little satisfaction. 

Ron, thanks. Undecorated shells would be welcomed. They are doing it with the e8/9's.  I could paint them myself, I have all the tools to make that happen. The detailing is also identical to the aspen leaf, so that's a plus. 

Ok I'll bite.. I will order a set 

A big thank you!

It's really a tough choice for me.  Fence riding bigtime.  Just hope Scott get's enough pre-orders to do Grande PA ABA's.  If he get's enough to do black/gold and silver/grande gold 4 stripe -- then I have a real problem. This is a great problem to have, huh.

As you say a great problem to have!  LOL! Just lots of $$$  

Bill don't forget to e-mail Scott if you wanna see it offered  

So what color is the yellow? Is it cream, as the photos above, or is it closer to Grande Gold, which seems close to schoolbus yellow?

Would it be more difficult to use a Sunset mechanism in a Lionel shell, or to repaint the Sunset shell?  Obviously, the best choice is to buy the bumblebee from Sunset, but suppose that doesn't happen?

Lionel probably still has the shells for theirs available as replacement parts.  Just an alternative.

BOB2.  The following might help.

http://utahrails.net/drgw/rg-diesel-paint-schemes.php

I have the Lionels from some years ago and they are indeed pretty.  

Thanks Sam.  I prefer the Grande Gold, which, at least in Scale Coat, was identical to SP Daylight Orange.  I do like the contrast with black, but now know I cannot own a set of the bumblebee units (at least a set with prototypical colors).

The Lionel ads on the internet showed the brighter orange - but the computer doesn't really know colors.  I have to tell you, if I did plastic, I would have a fleet of Lionel PAs.  I would buy them dummy, and stick P&D mechanisms in them.

HO brass factory painted model...

That is a beautiful paint scheme on the prettiest diesel locomotive ever built. I am a little partial to the PA-1 in GM&O red & maroon too.

I think the Lionel legacy PA is one of the best.  I did a series of posts on bringing up to a practical scale appearance, trucks, pilot and steps, etc. A lot of work and considering I paid $750 for an ABA set and then another $100 in parts and 25 hours labor I would spring for Scott's units. However, If one already has these units check out my article, converting Lionel atsf PAs to 3 rail scale beginning 11-4-14. I think you'll enjoy it.

Ron

If you really want Sunset to do them then be willing to guarantee 20 units will be sold and they will be done.  That is how the Amtrak E units got back into the mix.

Remember 20 units is only 7 ABA sets.  If other folks reserve/purchase enough to make the 20 your off the hook, but if only 10 units sell your on the hook for the other 10.

1949 Exposition flyer, CZ is only months away

Oh boy, My favorite Grande scheme, and my era, too...tempting. Very seductive, and somebody mentioned the Yampa Valley Mail.  But that often ran with just one PA.....Decisions, decisions ..

Don't forget to email Scott!

I will send Scott a request too, ncng