97C Controller questions

41woodieOGR Forum Member

Working on getting my 164 log loader up and running. Is the rotary switch a rheostat that can increase and decrease the speed of the chain lift or is it simply an on/off switch? Can anyone direct me to a schematic that will show the contact sequence of the copper leafs in the controller? As it is wired now, my rotary switch is functioning as an on/off only, my dump button does not activate the mechanism unless the chain lift is also running and the two lights in the roof are on constantly regardless if the loader is running. Any suggestions appreciated.

9/25/158:28 PM

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Dale HOGR Forum Member

Far as I know they are just switches,on and off.

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Dale H

9/25/1510:47 PM

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TeleDocOGR Forum Member

The 97C knob is strictly on/off and the push button is to activate it. Sad part is that there are no schematics on-line that I have found, after doing a search earlier. I don't have anything that uses a 97C, and have never seen the insides, to know how it functions. Good luck.

9/26/1512:11 AM

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Former Member

The Greenberg manual has a wire drawing. If the wires from the 97C to

the loader are reversed then the loader will only unload when the loader

is running.

The 97C has just on/off switches, the knob controls the loader and the

button unloads.

9/26/158:17 AM

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Alan MancusOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

not very clear but here is a diagram of the controller for Lionel 97c

Alan the rotate knob is in the center of the controller and is either on or off and the 4 orange buttons are momentary push buttons to control the crane up down left or right movement

Alan

9/26/1511:25 AM

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Former Member

The 165C controller is for the 165 crane, not the 97C

controller used for the 97 coal loader and 164 log

loader.

Greenberg's book has a drawing that shows that the

lights will be on when the power is on and if the 2

outside wires from the 97c are reversed, the loader

will only unload when the loader is running.

9/26/152:32 PM

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41woodieOGR Forum Member

Pa, I'm glad you pointed out that the diagram was not a 97c. I stared at it moment and thought "Jeez no wonder my 97c doesn't work correctly, most of it is missing. Then I saw your post and the mention of 4 orange buttons.

Just to make sure that my expectations are correct, if everything is connected properly the rotary switch should turn the chain lift off and on. The orange button should operate the dump mechanism. They should operate independently of the other. The lights should be on when the chain lift is operating. Correct?

I suppose the lights could be jumped to be on at all times if it was preferred. I wish that a schematic similar to the one Repair Technician posted was available for the 97c. Looks like I need to go shopping for a Greenberg Repair book. Thanks to all that have replied

9/26/158:03 PM

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Former Member

Maybe this will help. The lights are connected to be

on all the time. The knop switch controls the motor

and the button the unload operation.