Here's a little brain twister, let's see if anyone knows the answer. Which diecast engines were combined with a NYC 1682 caboose? Is the NYC version any more rare than the usual bright red one? Tks
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The only one I could find was the 1664 from Set 1087, and would probably be 1940 issue. As far as rarity, NO it holds the same value as the other versions.
Could it have come with a 229?
Here is a bigger brain twister...... the caboose looks close to new, so does the box have a 'x' stamped on it? The coupler box is missing so I would guess it came from a low end uncataloged set late in the prewar era and the cars had latch couplers, so the die cast coupler hood was deliberately left off at the factory to use with latch coupler cars.
McEntarfer's book lists the dark brown 1682 as being packaged in 1941-1942 with 1668, 1684 and 1688E locos.
Ron M
I was going to say the motive power was most likely a stamped metal uncataloged 258 loco.
Ron m, What book are you referring to? I have never heard that name before. At any rate, due to the approximate issue date around 1940-41, it could have been something paired with any combination, during the 1942-1945 War era, and put together as something uncatalogued, by a dealer.
Dave McE's book is titled as Greenberg's Guide to LIONEL TRAINS 1901-1942 Vol. IV PREWAR SETS.
The cheapest used book price according to bookfinder.com is $299.99 +$2.99 shipping. The next is $303.44 with free shipping. If you want a brand new copy, the minimum price is $851.72 plus $3.99 shipping.
Ron M
Originally Posted by Montclaire:
Here's a little brain twister, let's see if anyone knows the answer. Which diecast engines were combined with a NYC 1682 caboose? Is the NYC version any more rare than the usual bright red one? Tks
1941 consumer catalog...
cheers...gary
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ron m, Thanks for the info about McEntarfer, as that is a name that I have never seen come up before. The usual suspects are Greenberg, Doyle, Touhy &McComas, but McEntarfer was a new one on me. The prices on some of the references are through the roof, if you wanted to obtain copies. Basically because most are out of print, and hard to come by. At those prices you quoted, I wouldn't even think of buying...LOL!
I'm sticking with my original of the 1087 Set, but the 1073 also looks to have the same caboose, so that would be two.
Thanks
Thanks, guys, all good responses. The photo that I posted was just for example, as I know that the 1682 had the same number for two styles of decoration and it was just easier to post the picture. I will photograph the actual caboose in question but I am 99% sure it has a latch coupler.
This thread has led to even more questions so I am going to start a new one. Please look for it in the tinplate forum.
