I wish Atlas O would do another run of their SD40s and do this one.
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This would be cool. I never really understood the appeal of high short hoods to the railroads though, isn't the view kind of restricted for the crew?
Lionel is making their SD40 with railroad specific details.
Lionel's factory in China might produce it before it gets made at the Atlas O factory in China.
Andrew
Since Lionel is doing a short high hood GP30 maybe they will make a short high hood SD40.
Neal Jeter
Wow! One of the commenters on Railpics said, "Now this is a True Heritage Unit" and I completely agree. It would be nice to see one like this in O scale and a SD40-2 version. It would be nice for Norfolk Southern to repaint a few -2's in this scheme.
The old Tuxedo scheme rivals anything on the rails today!
High short hoods - "restricted" the crew's view? I imagine an engineer or fireman being
thrown forward in time from, say, 1938, would find the "view restriction" issue of a
tiny little sheet metal enclosure to be vastly amusing.
How many "short hoods" would it take to equal the length of even a 4-6-2's boiler, not to mention that of a 4-6-6-4? View? What view?
Originally Posted by D500:
High short hoods - "restricted" the crew's view? I imagine an engineer or fireman being
thrown forward in time from, say, 1938, would find the "view restriction" issue of a
tiny little sheet metal enclosure to be vastly amusing.
How many "short hoods" would it take to equal the length of even a 4-6-2's boiler, not to mention that of a 4-6-6-4? View? What view?
Haha Very true. I agree, but the sd40 was built starting in 1966. So what was the reasoning behind the high hood when low hood were also being produced I was just curious as to why.
Would there have been more sand capacity? I can't remember the difference inside; we wrked on a few tall hood units in Mountain Top for SP, they were rebuilds, came from several different roads.
Don
So the crew wouldn't mind running with the long hood forward which was safety preference of the railroad.
Larry
Larry
Originally Posted by CNtomato:
Originally Posted by D500:
High short hoods - "restricted" the crew's view? I imagine an engineer or fireman being
thrown forward in time from, say, 1938, would find the "view restriction" issue of a
tiny little sheet metal enclosure to be vastly amusing.
How many "short hoods" would it take to equal the length of even a 4-6-2's boiler, not to mention that of a 4-6-6-4? View? What view?
Haha Very true. I agree, but the sd40 was built starting in 1966. So what was the reasoning behind the high hood when low hood were also being produced I was just curious as to why.
Because both the N&W and the Southern Railway SPECIFIED the high short hood, that's why. Look closely and you will see that the long hood is designated the front (F), and in the cab the control stand is layout so the Engineer sights on the "wrong side", i.e. the right side with the long hood facing forward.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by CNtomato:
Originally Posted by D500:
High short hoods - "restricted" the crew's view? I imagine an engineer or fireman being
thrown forward in time from, say, 1938, would find the "view restriction" issue of a
tiny little sheet metal enclosure to be vastly amusing.
How many "short hoods" would it take to equal the length of even a 4-6-2's boiler, not to mention that of a 4-6-6-4? View? What view?
Haha Very true. I agree, but the sd40 was built starting in 1966. So what was the reasoning behind the high hood when low hood were also being produced I was just curious as to why.
Because both the N&W and the Southern Railway SPECIFIED the high short hood, that's why. Look closely and you will see that the long hood is designated the front (F), and in the cab the control stand is layout so the Engineer sights on the "wrong side", i.e. the right side with the long hood facing forward.
Oh I see, interesting, thanks for the information 
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by CNtomato:
Originally Posted by D500:
High short hoods - "restricted" the crew's view? I imagine an engineer or fireman being
thrown forward in time from, say, 1938, would find the "view restriction" issue of a
tiny little sheet metal enclosure to be vastly amusing.
How many "short hoods" would it take to equal the length of even a 4-6-2's boiler, not to mention that of a 4-6-6-4? View? What view?
Haha Very true. I agree, but the sd40 was built starting in 1966. So what was the reasoning behind the high hood when low hood were also being produced I was just curious as to why.
Because both the N&W and the Southern Railway SPECIFIED the high short hood, that's why. Look closely and you will see that the long hood is designated the front (F), and in the cab the control stand is layout so the Engineer sights on the "wrong side", i.e. the right side with the long hood facing forward.
The long hood was designated front but I thought most of them were dual cab controls.
Originally Posted by rdunniii:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by CNtomato:
Originally Posted by D500:
High short hoods - "restricted" the crew's view? I imagine an engineer or fireman being
thrown forward in time from, say, 1938, would find the "view restriction" issue of a
tiny little sheet metal enclosure to be vastly amusing.
How many "short hoods" would it take to equal the length of even a 4-6-2's boiler, not to mention that of a 4-6-6-4? View? What view?
Haha Very true. I agree, but the sd40 was built starting in 1966. So what was the reasoning behind the high hood when low hood were also being produced I was just curious as to why.
Because both the N&W and the Southern Railway SPECIFIED the high short hood, that's why. Look closely and you will see that the long hood is designated the front (F), and in the cab the control stand is layout so the Engineer sights on the "wrong side", i.e. the right side with the long hood facing forward.
The long hood was designated front but I thought most of them were dual cab controls.
Nope. Neither the N&W, nor the Souther Rwy, would have wasted that much money for that very expensive option.
N&W had dual control while Southern ordered all of theirs setup to operate long-hood forward.
Hot Water, Would you know if the High Short Hood (on the 40 series) added to the price of the locomotive?
Originally Posted by DaveJfr0:
I would prefer they make these in the as-built southern scheme using the original gold scheme as opposed to deluxe gold seen here, but in my opinion there is room to do both as they target different era's and different modelers.
I'd be in for 2 if they came in the original scheme and DCC. I would also prefer road numbers near the beginning of the series.
If these are made in the original scheme, I would like a run without the heralds and check mark so I can run them with my Atlas Southern SD35 to portray the late 60s. Heralds and check letters did not appear until 1971-72 on most locomotives.
I would consider Atlas or Lionel for purchase.
Southern SD40 3190 was one of the last painted units I photographed in 1989, so I really like these older 6 axle locomotives.
Originally Posted by EMD:
Hot Water, Would you know if the High Short Hood (on the 40 series) added to the price of the locomotive?
Yes, it certainly did, plus the added expense of the relocated control stand and electrical
cabinet doors modified for long hood front configuration.
