My frustration with scenics on my small AF postwar layout is the lack of buildings available that are not 1800s in style. I saw a wonderful "S" modular layout a few years ago that used modified "HO" buildings. I just bought a "HO" Woodland Scenics 1930s style gas station that works very well with "S" cars and people. I wish Ameritowne type fronts were available in "S". Wonder if MTH will have a "S" line of senic items?
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My frustration with scenics on my small AF postwar layout is the lack of buildings available that are not 1800s in style. I saw a wonderful "S" modular layout a few years ago that used modified "HO" buildings. I just bought a "HO" Woodland Scenics 1930s style gas station that works very well with "S" cars and people. I wish Ameritowne type fronts were available in "S". Wonder if MTH will have a "S" line of senic items?
Having become rather tired of the appearance of Plasticville, I have eliminated almost all of it from my vintage postwar AF layout (with the exception of the signal bridge, the greenhouse, and the Gilbert No. 590 Cedar Hill switch tower). If one is trying for an authentic postwar 'look' beyond Plasticville, one can purchase new-old 1940's Skyline lithographed craftboard kits with the intent of building them. I also use vintage Mini-craft, Gilbert/Mini-craft, Gilbert accesories, and Gilbert's own RR and sideline structures, such as those done in painted sheet metal, the No. 767 Branford Diner, etc. Little of this is strictly S scale, but then the route I am suggesting is geared towards recreating a vintage postwar style layout. Unfortunately, it also represents a bigger investment than using Plasticville. See a few examples below.
If one is trying for a more detailed (more contemporary) result than what I am outlining above, many of the Skyline kits (which usually tend to be "small O", or HO) also do provide a great starting points from which one can perform further detailing using modern parts from Grant Line, and so forth. Skyline kits show up at venues such as York and on ebay. Many recently produced S scale kits are also listed for sale and shown in a completed form on the Portlines Hobbies web site.
Hope that this is at least a helpful start.
Bob
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Ah, you've hit on one of the key things missing in S: Ready-to-place or Cornerstone type building kits. We seem to tend to concentrate on locomotives and rolling stock, structures are almost an after-thought.
Another problem is some companies, like DSL Shops (resin kits) have come and gone.
Hopefully, MTH will scale down some of their structures for S, but their farmhouse and large brick passenger station are almost perfect S Scale.
Outside of Plasticville, you're getting into the more complicated wood/cardstock and resin kits. A good sample can bee seen here:
http://www.hoquathobbies.com/Structures.htm
There's also Bar Mills Scale Model Works:
http://www.barmillsmodels.com/...chk=1&Itemid=999
And Grand River Models:
http://www.grandrivermodels.com/home.html
And for paper buildings in S, there's Clever Models:
Unfortunately, these aren't "shake the box" type structures, but the Bar Mills kits are laser cut and go together rather well, you just have to be a little patient.
I'm using a combination of structure kits on my railroad:
This is a Bar Mills Saluna's Tavern repurposed as a general store. If I had it to do over again, I'd move the stairway to the back.
This depot is a PBL Sargents Depot resin kit, no longer available.
Lehigh Valley water tower and coaling tower. The smaller buildings are Kanamodel kits, also no longer available to my knowledge.
My one "Plasticville" branded kit. It was marginally HO, depending on which door you measured. Bachmann blew these out a couple of years ago. I replaced the rubber-scale side and rear doors and windows with Grant Line parts. Still needs a little work.
This catches part of the long gone DSL kits at the bottom of the photo, that's a Lehigh Valley "Hawk Milling" on the left. The sphereoid water tower is obviosly Lionel, it works fine for S. The streetlamps are Plasticville, by the way...
However, I felt the water tower looked a little too modern for my late 1950's era layout, plus Athearn offered this industrial water tower in HO and it looks just about right for S.
Finally, the Athearn water tower from the ground perspective, DSL drug store on the right, Lehigh Valley Hawk Milling on the left.
As you can see, I've got quite a bit to do to finish some of these structures. One of these days...
Rusty
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Gandy
A few of the inexpensive Clever Models kits mentioned earlier..
My version of Paul Yorke's Factory kit (free)
You might try some of the ERTL buildings as they are 1/64
they have a old western town that can be repainted and look pretty good
Ertl also has 1/64 farm buildings and equipment. I've seen some of it on a couple of S gauge modular layouts, very nice.
Ertl also has 1/64 farm buildings and equipment. I've seen some of it on a couple of S gauge modular layouts, very nice.
Thanks! I'm ordering the farm set and house.
I use some HO buildings that look right, maybe add height. I really hated to part with so many nice O buildings but generally they were too large for S scale.
I'm also having a time finding suitable S crossing gates.
I use some HO buildings that look right, maybe add height. I really hated to part with so many nice O buildings but generally they were too large for S scale.
I'm also having a time finding suitable S crossing gates.
Here's an image of the station from the MTH Ready to Run catalog, I thought I had a picture on file from my modular days, but I guess not:
Model Railroader had plans of this station some years ago, we checked the measurments against the drawing and it's pretty much spot on for S. It's a large building, but a lot of town stations were.
If I recall, NJ international did some S scale crossing gates.
Rusty
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Brady, I've thought about NJ but I'm such a non techie that the crossing gate mechanism puzzles me. I need to see if Z Stuff does their gates in S. It appears that all they did on their S signals is lower the height on their O gauge units.
Brady, I've thought about NJ but I'm such a non techie that the crossing gate mechanism puzzles me. I need to see if Z Stuff does their gates in S. It appears that all they did on their S signals is lower the height on their O gauge units.
Nope, that's not mine in the Gaugian. I thought about using the Walthers kit, but opted for the LVM kit instead.
Walthers also did their Cornerstone Series Dairy in O, which is a smallish building for O and a bigger one in S. I've seen several S Gaugers use this building. The trick is to make sure the loading dock lines up with reefers and trucks by raising the track and parking lot.
Rusty
John,
Carl Tuveson has some HO Model Power signals on his layout, they're inexpensive, but I'm not sure about the control circuits. The NJ and Z-stuff signals are pricey, and after reading a couple of presentations on installing signal systems I'm considering just picking up some Bachmann (Plasticville?) non-operating HO signals and mounting them on bases, if needed.
Brady
Carl Tuveson also kitbashed one heck of a nice roundhouse using the IHC/Atlas O 2 stall engine house kits.
One other thing I forgot. The NASG sponsored a S Scale plastic modular brick warehouse kit a couple of years ago that you might stumble across.
Unfortunately, the project became such a fiasco due to forces outside of NASG's control, I think they've pretty much sworn off the structure business.
Rusty
Since we're on the subject, in a recent issue of CTT there was an article on a nice S gauge layout, and the author mentioned using O gauge automobiles since many AF accessories are a little large for S. A good example is the Minicraft Bungalow..
An S scale auto was too small, but this 1/48 Tucker (and an O gauge figure) seem to be about right.
Next to the S scale Clever Models Company Houses I'm using smaller autos that were marketed as O gauge, but are small for O. People are the same thing, O gauge folks come in many sizes and are pretty easy to find. Bowser sells figures marketed for O, but many look just like the figures Flyer used to sell.
Perhaps in a true scale environment the 1/64 M2 machines autos work all the way around.
Brady
They sure look small to me.
They sure look small to me.
Oh, I dunno, they look the right size to me:
Rusty
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Who made the signal please?
Who made the signal please?