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Hey Guys - I've been hunting around for one of the C+LS TM's factory painted in Virginian ( either phase) and Pennsy - does anyone know what the production numbers were for these models ? Apparently the numbers might have been up on the web-site when the site was active . Was hoping someone might know or have heard directly from Henry . Goes without saying if you have either to sell please let me know .Regards,Bryan.

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Bryan,
 
You missed a PRR one at the National this year.  Went before I could get back to the table with $$$ (within an hour or so of open).
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Bryan D.:

Hey Guys - I've been hunting around for one of the C+LS TM's factory painted in Virginian ( either phase) and Pennsy - does anyone know what the production numbers were for these models ? Apparently the numbers might have been up on the web-site when the site was active . Was hoping someone might know or have heard directly from Henry . Goes without saying if you have either to sell please let me know .Regards,Bryan.

Stephen - I know what you mean - I've offered more than that to a fellow who has one of each phase - no dice . I thought my offer to trade a factory painted SP Black Widow would scare one up , but no . Been looking for a TM-2 Demonstrator to match my TM-1 and again - no dice . Zippo on the Pennsy as well . I've been offered unpainted ones , but really holding out for the FP versions .

          Bryan

I guess we all have a ''favorite '' the one you'd grab if the house was on fire - and for me this is it . These models have incredible detail and the factory painted versions have amazing crispness to their striping and lettering . I'd love to find TM-2 to keep this one company ! On the Virginian - hate to admit it , but I'd probably spend 3K on one - YIKES !!

          Bryan

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I guess for the VGN version that we will have to up the ante to about $3000.00 to acquire one.

Stephen

 

 

Henry's train masters have held their value but my guess and I am no expert is that 10% to 20% of retail is fair market value for any of these models. A bidding war on eBay would change the price...I believe C&LS Demonstrator would bring in top prices...

 

Dennis

 

I don't own and didn't take the photos I have of the Factory Painted Pennsy version , which while it doesn't have the '' pop '' of the Demo , Black Widow , or Virginian is really nice in Brunswick green . The Pennsy has the antennae , coil , and a neat inverted V rain gutter on the cab roof . Nice model .

          Bryan

Holy Smokes ! I never saw his web-site - great to see all the info that I figured was lost . I guess I see now why the guy I offered 3K for his FP Virginian wasn't biting ! Feel extremely lucky to own a Demonstrator and a SP Black Widow , but the Pennsy and Virginian versions have eluded me . Thanks a bunch for posting the link ! Time to get in the '' way back machine '' and go buy some at those prices !

          Bryan

Here are the production quantities (courtesy of the C&LS website via waybackmachine.org)  It looks like 125 pcs total.


F.M. Demonstrator - T.M.-1 or T.M.-2 $1750.00 ea. Qty. 19 pcs. total
S.P. Black Widow - engine #4812 or #4815 $1700.00 ea. Qty. 16 pcs. total
Pennsylvania w/ Antenna - engine #8699 or #8703 $1650.00 ea. Qty. 16 pcs. total
Virginian Phase 1b - engine #51 or #67 $1700.00 ea. Qty. 10 pcs. total
Virginian Phase 2 - engine #69 or #73 $1700.00 ea. Qty. 10 pcs. total
Prices do not include shipping. Please reserve with $250 deposit and circle your choices. Semi finished models are $1475 ea. They are;
Jersey Central - Phase 1 or 2 Qty. 8 each phase.
Reading Phase - 1 or 2 Qty. 4 each phase.
Lackawanna or Erie Lackawanna - Phase 1 or 2 Qty. 10 each phase.
F.M. stock model - Phase 2 with dynamics and steam gen. Qty. 10 ea.
As you can see quantities are small, so do not hesitate or you may miss out.

 

 

Here is the link to the website (includes photos)

http://web.archive.org/web/201...fairbanks-morse.html

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