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I have totally rebuilt my layout to eliminate two duck-unders, and my prior wiring is largely a total loss.  My revised layout has an "E" shape, with the long portion of the "E" being 18', and the three short legs being 8'.

 

For this layout, I was planning to implement bus wiring, instead of the star wiring that I had previously used.  Also, 15+ years ago, crawling under the table was much easier, and I may decide to wire "over the top", and hide the wires with scenery/buildings.

 

According to the Lionel Trains(TM) Official Blog:

 

 

       "Wire comes in many sizes in solid and stranded varieties. Stranded wire is really a bundle of smaller diameter wires wound together. Wire size is indicated by a number – the larger the number, the smaller the wire. Most house wiring in No. 12, solid wire. For your layout, we recommend a No. 16 stranded bus wire with No. 18 feeders. The feeders do not have to be as large because they are not as long and it is easier to attach the smaller wire to the tracks. Stranded wire offers better electrical flow (electricity flows around a wire, not through it) and it is easier to bend. We recommend adding feeders at least every 10 to 20 feet around the track.

For lights and other low amp accessories, even smaller wire can be used on the feeders. Lighted accessories should use No. 20 or 22 wire.Phonecable works very well for switch motors. It is color coded, easily available and cheap!"

 

I have always used solid copper wire in a "Star" pattern for my layouts.

 

For simplified bus wiring, and following the Lionel instructions above, What connectors, ground bars, and terminal strips would be connected to the "Ground" bus wire that circumnavigates the train table? [I will have two mainlines, and a "bump" trolley line, and a number of lights and operating accessories.  The transformer is a new Lionel brand, ZWL, I believe.]

 

Assuming that I do not wish to solder wires:

 

1. First, do i crimp a "spade" to the end of the stranded No. 16 stranded "bus wire",  and then attach the wire to the ground terminal post of the new ZW transformer?  If so, what size spade works well?

 

 

2.  How do I make the connections around the layout to the ground bus wire referred to by Lionel?  [As noted above, my revised layout has an "E" shape, with the long portion of the "E" being 18', and the three short legs being 8'.]  

 

3. Do I use terminal strips, barrier strips, or ground bars to run feeder wires to the 3 track "loops", and to the accessories.

 

I've looked through my numerous reference books, and can't find a comprehensive source for information.  Obviously, hobbyists use different methods, but, I am searching for something that is simple and effective.

 

Thanks so much!

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1. First, do i crimp a "spade" to the end of the stranded No. 16 stranded "bus wire",  and then attach the wire to the ground terminal post of the new ZW transformer?  If so, what size spade works well?

 

Just tin the wire a bit and the stranded wire will fit on the terminal. If you use a spade terminal,you may need a lock washer to keep it tight.

 

 

2.  How do I make the connections around the layout to the ground bus wire referred to by Lionel?  [As noted above, my revised layout has an "E" shape, with the long portion of the "E" being 18', and the three short legs being 8'.]  

 

I run a common around the perimiter of the layout. Connections can be made anywhere,this assumes you don't use DCS

 

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3. Do I use terminal strips, barrier strips, or ground bars to run feeder wires to the 3 track "loops", and to the accessories.

 

Depends on preferences. Barrier strips can be made into ground bars with jumpers.

 

Dale H

Originally Posted by Dale H:

1. First, do i crimp a "spade" to the end of the stranded No. 16 stranded "bus wire",  and then attach the wire to the ground terminal post of the new ZW transformer?  If so, what size spade works well?

 

Just tin the wire a bit and the stranded wire will fit on the terminal. If you use a spade terminal,you may need a lock washer to keep it tight.

 

 

2.  How do I make the connections around the layout to the ground bus wire referred to by Lionel?  [As noted above, my revised layout has an "E" shape, with the long portion of the "E" being 18', and the three short legs being 8'.]  

 

I run a common around the perimiter of the layout. Connections can be made anywhere,this assumes you don't use DCS

 

LINK

 

 

 

3. Do I use terminal strips, barrier strips, or ground bars to run feeder wires to the 3 track "loops", and to the accessories.

 

Depends on preferences. Barrier strips can be made into ground bars with jumpers.

 

Dale H

Thanks Dale, very helpful.  Would a bare solid wire be a good choice for the ground bus, providing that no "hot" wires are allowed to touch the bus?

 

Also, for the euro style barrier strips, would these be a good choice, or, what should i choose?  I don't understand the significance of the "12mm" in this context, and there are a lot of choices.  Thanks again.

 

       Barrier Terminal Blocks 12MM EURO STRIP 03P 2SCREW.236

Originally Posted by Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611:
 

Thanks Dale, very helpful.  Would a bare solid wire be a good choice for the ground bus, providing that no "hot" wires are allowed to touch the bus?

 

Also, for the euro style barrier strips, would these be a good choice, or, what should i choose?  I don't understand the significance of the "12mm" in this context, and there are a lot of choices.  Thanks again.

 

       Barrier Terminal Blocks 12MM EURO STRIP 03P 2SCREW.236

For a ground bus on my layout,which is large,I use 12-2 romex,which is solid.One of them is bare,it don't matter, 2 runs of it make a 120 amp return bus. May seem like a lot,but I have a lot of lights,accessories etc. The bus has to handle the total of all transformers in amps. 

 

Hots are all circuit protected so in case there is a short. here is a link of the layout I am building and the wiring techniques used.

 

LINK

 

The size of the Euro strips depends on what you are doing.   The ones that accommodate 14-18 gauge wire are pretty good. 

 

here is a vendor who sells the strip

 

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Here is one for larger wire

 

LINK3

 

There are also smaller ones for light applications.

 

dale H

 

 

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