Crossing signal update

So you want to hook this up with the additional crossing gate? Which infrared are you using? the one for RealTrax or the one that looks like a silver RR utility box?

 

For the silver IT?AD

 

Black goes to ground on transformer

Red goes to  NO on the ITAD

 

Wit additional crossing gate crossing gate

Red is Hot on transformer

Black is Ground on transformer

white is NC or Normally Closed

Yellow goes to NC or Normally Closed with the red form the crossing signal

 If this one only has  2 wires (red and black) It's pretty easy depending on your power supply. Red to "hot" 14 volts.... black to insulated outside rail section Make it as long as you want.. Wheels complete the  circuit for common. What transformer?

The 30-11023 semaphore has three wires. To connect it to the MTH infrared device, connect the black wire to the common post, the green wire to the NC (normally closed) post, and the red wire to the the NO (normally open). The signal will remain green until a train activates the detector; once activated it will change to red, then once the train clears the detector yellow, and back to green a few seconds later.

 

You can also use a Lionel 153C or similar mechanical switch, or an insulated track and relay to trigger the signal. The insulated track and relay option will be by far the most reliable, as long as the insulated track is kept clean.

 

-John

Gregg, if you hook red to hot then it will always be on, he is not hooking up the 30-11023 its a 30-11006. Depending on which infrared device he is using he will hook black to transformer ground and red to NO, he may need to add a wire form hot to Common on the ITAD

Hey matt. don't forget there's no ground to the signal unless  the wheels are in the insulated track section. I talking about the crossing flashers. 2 wires ...

My bad, I didnt read the whole thing. Must have saw a shiny object. Youre right on that one Gregg

I would like to do the insulated track way how do I do that for the two

 

You can only do the crossing signal using the insulated track sections without any extra components (relay). The crossing is either on or off.  I see you have Lionel sectional track but need to know what type of transformer you have. One of the transformers  12 /14  Volt  accessory posts must be common to the outside rail. Nothings never easy is it?

Lionel zw 275

ZW 275.. great.   Can you insulate an outside rail by prying the rail up and installing some type of insulating material. Someone can probably help you with that. I haven't used Lionel track for years. You would also have to remove the metal  rail joiner pins at both ends of the insulated section(s).  Substitute with wooden match or something similar.   Hopefully the U connections on the ZW are to the outside rails. I would use a spare handle B or C  set about 12 volts for the hot  and run a wire directly to the red on the crossing flashers,. The black wire on the crossing flasher goes directly to the insulated track  rail  you created. Solder it on ??

The hardest part is creating the insulated rail... Hope this gives you the general idea and good luck. fun project.

 

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Gregg thanks for the help on this I think I can make one and I can insulate with electric tape and cardboard . I will try this some time real soon as soon as I get a chance. I will let everyone know how I made out.

Great, If you have any scrap track around there should be insulating material on the center rail.   Good luck

Actually I do. Do I need two insulated track sections so if train comes in either direction it will go off or would you do a insulated section right in front of it so it goes of when it's there.

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you could  make the insulated section as long as you want. Whatever you think looks good.  Have fun.

 

Make two long insulated sections with a cut in the two insulated sections in the middle of the highway crossing.  Wire a switch so you can have the first insulated section that the train gets to operate the crossing signal and when the end of the train is at the road crossing the signal will stop.  If the train is going the other way just switch on the other insulated section and power down the other section.

 

See videos, the two insulated sections are approx. 9 feet long on both sides of the highway crossing. The crossing gates start back up as soon as the end of the train crosses the highway

Is this the correct wiring for what I want to do. And if so why 2 lockons.

 

No it's not, The one above is quite a bit more complicated and the whole insulated section is approx. 18 feet long. (2  nine foot sections)

 

Keep it simple (KISS) until you get a little more experienced . Instead of soldering to the insulated rail section you could use a lock on. Get at it!!

 

Ok I hooked up the crossing signal today all went well.train rides over track section light comes on and train leaves the section and signal shuts off thanks all for the help.

Ok now where should I place the semphone not sure where they go on railway someone have some history on this.

Ok this what I cam up with its correct enough I quess.

If you're operating an engine sitting in the right seat , Most  track side signals are on your right side .This includes your semaphore. Where to put it?  Since they usually protect such things as drawbridges, Railroad crossings, where one railroad crosses over another railroad. Right at your crossing (diamond)would be a good spot. Another good spot is where ever you think it looks good. This one's a little trickier to hook up .