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Looks like it turned out great, Nice work! That's really a steep and sharp curve below.
919 grass on wet paint?
Getting ready to do that soon on my D-105.
Something about the original grass that new stuff can't duplicate
Jagrick, where did you source your felt for the mountain? I've bought a few 920 sets to get the proper thickness felt, can't find much readily available that's thin enough.
I wonder if this layout was built with larger curves, would you get the same effect?
Probably could but the size would be enormous. Even at this it is 8'4" long and 4' wide and 6" tall and is a little awkward to move. As a built in you could do a lot of things-hidden siding with a different train coming out then what went in.
Finally got the D-27 layout "tuned in" but had to change the exit by lowering the track down by 1/2 " to lessen the grade. I am convinced that the Magne traction feature weakens over the years and is to the point (in three of the 2035's I tried) could not make the pull with more than 3-4 gondolas. By lowering the grade slightly, it can pull 10-12 of the 1002 gondolas.
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Jagrick, Can you please post a photo of the completed track under the mountain. I cannot get the upgrade section to come out correct. Did you have to cut the last O72 curve section?
I will get a picture for you and details
You do net to cut one of the o72 curves to fit as well as some top cuts to allow it to bend down smoothly
@Jagrick posted:You do net to cut one of the o72 curves to fit as well as some top cuts to allow it to bend down smoothly
Jagrick, Can you please post a photo of this section of track that has been cut to get an idea of what it needs to look like.
Will get picture tonight
@Mike Espy posted:Jagrick, Can you please post a photo of this section of track that has been cut to get an idea of what it needs to look like.
Great little layout!
It would be nice to see the entire finished trackage underneath. I suspect the mountain is removable to allow for lifting up the panel hiding the track.
Probably one of Lionel's coolest dealer displays. Never gets old.
Jagrick, did you work from the original Lionel track plan or did you make your own? Do you have a copy of your track plan?
Jagrig,
Thanks for posting the photograph as it now is much easier to see what you actually did.
The layout must be a fun to run especially with little kids seeing it for the first time!
Years ago I was at a hardware store one Sunday in Long Beach MS and asked if anyone had any old trains around there. A man had passed away the year before and someone called his widow to see if she still had his trains. She did and I was able to buy several boxes of stuff from her. When I got home and looked through everything there were these two 'el cheap-O deluxe' gondolas that I wasn't familiar with. The silver and the yellow ones. Consulting the Greenberg book I soon discovered what I had! I wrote to the lady and explained about them, telling her it was like collecting rare stamps or similar and sent her an extra $200 I think it was. She cashed the check but I never heard back from her with a thanks...
Hey Will,
I had access to an original one as well as lionel sheets. They actually showed 2 versions of the layout: one came in 3 section to bolt together and the one stlye i have seen which is a single unit.
actually some carpentry work went into this display with 1/4 round edges, rabbit joints and track modification.
The track used 3 of the 4 power circuits of the zw transformer and insulated sections to slow and speed up the train where needed. To turn it off you flip a toggle switch and dont touch the throttles once you have them tuned in
Jagrick, So it looks like you have cut into the top section of the plywood on the up-grade side correct? Could you please take close up photo of the last section of track that has been cut and how much you cut into the table top? Thanks so much for your help so far!
Initially i didnt make that cut but i am convinced that the magnetraction has weakened over time so i made th cut to ease the incline just enough. Also the barrels are in the cars to help the engine pull the load by adding weight on the down hill leg to slightly push the climbing part of the train and that was in the original operating instructions!
@Jagrick posted:Hey Will,
I had access to an original one as well as lionel sheets. They actually showed 2 versions of the layout: one came in 3 section to bolt together and the one stlye i have seen which is a single unit.
actually some carpentry work went into this display with 1/4 round edges, rabbit joints and track modification.
I just don't remember it using any 072 track, but my memory isn't so hot, so I though I'd ask.
@Jagrick posted:Initially i didnt make that cut but i am convinced that the magnetraction has weakened over time so i made th cut to ease the incline just enough. Also the barrels are in the cars to help the engine pull the load by adding weight on the down hill leg to slightly push the climbing part of the train and that was in the original operating instructions!
One more question. Where did you source the copper strips you are using for the electrical hookup? I have had no luck finding anything long enough to work.
Those are tin buss bars not copper just like lionel used. I cut them out myself off of large sheets of tinned sheet metal with a stomp shear.i can cut a couple out for you if needed
@Jagrick posted:Those are tin buss bars not copper just like lionel used. I cut them out myself off of large sheets of tinned sheet metal with a stomp shear.i can cut a couple out for you if needed
Thanks so much that would be a great help! Drop me an email at espy65@comcast.net so I can give you my address and set up a payment to you for them.
Here is a photo of my effort so far to reproduce this D-27 Display. First round of grass down. Will hit some light spots after this layer is dry. Next phase will be the wiring.
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@Mike Espy posted:Here is a photo of my effort so far to reproduce this D-27 Display. First round of grass down. Will hit some light spots after this layer is dry. Next phase will be the wiring.
Looks great, Mike. I knew you were attempting this and so far so good. Continued good luck.
Btw, did you use some of the old Lionel 919 grass?
@johnstrains posted:Looks great, Mike. I knew you were attempting this and so far so good. Continued good luck.
Btw, did you use some of the old Lionel 919 grass?
Yes! I found several bags on eBay over the summer. To me layouts like this just do not have the same feel without it. I also did the mountain like they did back in the 50s with felt and hide glue. (That was a learning experience!
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@Mike Espy posted:Yes! I found several bags on eBay over the summer. To me layouts like this just do not have the same feel without it. I also did the mountain like they did back in the 50s with felt and hide glue. (That was a learning experience!
Sounds like me when I did my D-105 display layout. Found a bunch on eBay and used most of it. Still have enough left over for touch ups.
@Jagrick posted:Those are tin buss bars not copper just like lionel used. I cut them out myself off of large sheets of tinned sheet metal with a stomp shear.i can cut a couple out for you if needed
@jagrick Can still use these buss bars if the offer still stands. Drop me an email espy65@comcast.net
Sorry have been crazy busy offer still stands will get out and cut them tomorrow
@Jagrick posted:Sorry have been crazy busy offer still stands will get out and cut them tomorrow
Still can use these if you get some free time to cut them. Thanks in advance!
