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I need simple diesel wheels (as in any ES 44 or Ac6000, etc) that are 48" diameter, have a .145 tread, and conform to NMRA standards.  I need 16, but prefer 20.  They are not standard items, and I am sure will have to be fabricated.  Any help will be appreciated

By the way, I have tried the following sources, and all have turned me down:

NWSL

Cumberland Model Engineering

Matt Forsythe

I also have sent a message to 7th Street Group, but have not yet heard from them.

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That is a tough one.  Let me check with my brother.  The real problem is insulating and getting them square on an axle.  Just making the wheels should be trivial, unless you need a special shape on the back.  

Bob Stevenson may have a screw machine - not sure.  You might check out local small machine shops, although they are a dying breed.

Jonathon and others..sorry about the confusion!  I was just trying to indicate I wanted a simple disc wheel (no spokes) as in a modern diesel.

Bob2:  Thanks in advance. 16 discs, as you call it.  I want to make an E2b pair, each having two four wheel trucks:  4 wheels/truck x 2 trucks per unit x 2 units = 16 wheels.  I can manage the insulating and pressing. In fact I prefer to!   Probably should make it 20 wheels, as I will no doubt mess something up.

@Steinzeit posted:

Is there a tolerance on the 1.00" you can live with -- say 0.95 to 1.10" or something like that ?

Sure, if it was an off the shelf item then I would take +/- ,05".  But If I have to have them made, I might as well go for 1". 

Are you going to power one or both of these ?

Both

  [ They did MU w/ P5's, didn't they ? ] 

Yes, which is why I want these, rather than the Westinghouse E3b or E2c which could not be MU'd with the P5a

So are you also going to need power trucks w/ an 11 ft wb ?

Yes, and I think I have that covered.  It is those massive AAR type trucks with the 11' wheelbase and 48" wheels that help give the E2b such a massive powerful look.   (In addition to the fact that they were just plain big!)

SZ

 

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By tolerance, I usually assume finish size and variance.  Not sure Mike can hold them closer than .002 or .003 between discs. I am checking.  Also, we have never done the .145 profile, but assume the flanges can be rounded with a couple file strokes?

What happened to Grabowski’s business?  Also, did you e-mail Jay at Right-O-Way?

@bob2 posted:

By tolerance, I usually assume finish size and variance.  Not sure Mike can hold them closer than .002 or .003 between discs. I am checking.  

+/-.003 is fine.  Thanks again for checking.

Also, we have never done the .145 profile, but assume the flanges can be rounded with a couple file strokes?

Isn't that a standard tread width?  

What happened to Grabowski’s business?  Also, did you e-mail Jay at Right-O-Way?

Did not contact either. since I did not know they did such things

 

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@bob2 posted:

And how are you going to approach the superstructure?

An EP-5 to start. Will need kitbashing to get to the right height, move the headlight, put the side doors in the right spot, change the side window location and profile, locate the pants correcty, modify the pilot and side sills, change the roof appliances, and of course change the back. But the nose profile/windshield contour is very very close. I have spent many hours comparing drawings.  The biggest change is the height. To me the hardest part of this project is the wheels!  Worse comes to worse I'll go to a commercial machine shop.

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I had a thought that didn't die of loneliness. You're seeking wheel sets that are essentially 1" diameter with an O scale NMRA tread and flange. What if you went with a "smaller" wheel from a larger scale, say 1/32 in "fine scale" You'd get a narrower tread and flange. So a roughtly 33" 1/32 scale wheel would be just a shade larger than a 48" 1/48 wheel.

Let's say you got a few sets of 33" freight car wheels in 1/32 scale. You could spin them on a lathe to narrow the treads and trim the flanges.

Just sayin'

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