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Wiring the dual-motor Williams locomotives in series to slow them down and prevent "jackrabbit" starts has long been a controversial topic, and more than once has caused me to think twice about doing the mod to my Williams NW-2 switcher.

 

Well, I am now saying, "Don't knock it until you try it, and you can try it without cutting any wires or making any permanent changes!!!" Here's how you do it:

 

1. Remove the shell, and cut off the zip tie that is securing the wiring.

2. Carefully separate the jumble of wires, and unplug both motors from the main board.

 

Here's the key: The wires can be removed from the Molex plugs with their ends intact! Simply lay the connector on a hard surface with the slots up, and use a small flat screwdriver to CAREFULLY mash down the little "barb" that is holding the end in the plug and pull gently on the wire. It takes a little finesse, but it will come free with some patience.

 

3. Use the above technique to remove the BLUE wire from the cab end motor plug.

4. Use the above technique to remove the BLUE and YELLOW wires from the hood end motor plug.

5. Insert the BLUE wire from the hood end motor into the cab end plug.

6. Reinstall both plugs in the main board. It really doesn't matter which one goes where, but you did remember where they came from, right?

 

You now have a blue wire from the cab end motor, and a yellow wire from the hood end motor that need to be connected together.

 

7. Slip a piece of shrink tube over one of the wires.

8. Obtain a short piece of conductive metal (copper, brass, steel) that fits tightly in the wire ends. I used a cutoff wire from a Radio Shack 276-1181 rectifier that I had left over from another Williams slowdown mod. Any stiff wire the right diameter will do.

9. Cut a 5/16" long piece of the wire, and use it to connect the blue and yellow wires together.

10. Slide the shrink wrap over the connection, and shrink it.

11. Fold all the wires back down and secure with a new zip tie.

12. Test the locomotive, then replace the shell and have fun!

 

It's all reversible. All you have to do is cut off the shrink wrap, and put everything back the way it was if you don't like it.

 

Frankly, I like the results. Top speed is still fast, but not crazy fast. It will just barely creep along, which is absolutely awesome.

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While wiring in series may slow down the motors, you instantly void the warranty on any new Williams by Bachmann!!

 

I would recommend using a transformer with a dual voltage output like the Troller TAC 2001, it has both 0 to 9 volts and 0 to 18 volts, just flip a switch.

 

FYI, I have never series wired a Williams engine although I know perfectly how to wire it I have never had a need to re-wire any Williams engine except for a pair of F-7's that I installed a 6 amp 50 volt bridge rectifier in each one of them to control motor direction on start up, now I don't worry what direction my F-7's will go in.

I am using an MTH Z-1000 with my Williams engines at times too.

 

Lee Fritz

Originally Posted by Matt Kirsch:

It takes a little finesse, but it will come free with some patience.

Matt,

Not for me it didn't . I ended up with a bent flat blade screw driver and a bleeding finger tip. My solution, cut the wires and add pin connectors to the ends. These can be swapped as needed. To heck with the warranty IMO. I have 5 WBB diesels and they all run like champs.

 

Really, WBB needs to add a switch on the bottom to select between parallel and series. Would make things a whole lot easier.

 

Fredstrains,

I just did the mod on my brand new WBB RS3 and the wiring was no different than my earlier models. If you see blue and yellow wires to the motors you are good to go with the procedure.

 

S

Originally Posted by Fredstrains:

I guess my other question is : Does it make any difference where you start? From the "FRONT MOTOR or REAR MOTOR"?  ie Cab or Hood??

 

Fredstrains

 

Sorry, the activity on this board is high enough that I never saw any replies to my post! It was never on the first page long enough for me to catch it.

 

I cannot guarantee that the wires will be the same colors, but both WBB locomotives I own have blue and yellow wires on the motors, and both are fairly new. They are probably blue and yellow.

 

What's important is to use the wires connected to the MOTORS, pick one color to swap at the molex connector, and connect the two leftover UNLIKE-colored wires together as described above.

 

Cab end/hood end is just for reference. The motor with the longest leads was the hood end on my NW-2. It really doesn't matter.

 

Doing the mod this way makes it simple to return to original if you need to take it in for service, even if it does void the warranty and you have to pay for the repair. The service tech won't have to sort out hacked-up wiring.

 

...and I'm sorry, but they're TOO FAST even at 9 volts! Besides, I shouldn't have to buy a special transformer (that may not be large enough for my layout) to run one of these.

Lee

I think you got your labels swapped.   The top power flow is parallel, the bottom is series. 

Anyway, nice idea to make it switchable.

I rewired my GG1 last year like Matt did his.  The reason I did it was not so much for speed reduction, but to allow the horn to work.   When I ran it slow, the minimal voltage failed to activate the horn.

When I was playing around with it in the cradle, I noticed that one motor ran slower than the other (series or parallel).  I assume that it is a mechanical problem in the gear train, but I did not find anything obvious.   I was concerned that this would cause problems with series wiring (eg one motor stopping and the other revving) but this has not happened.

Bob

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