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I just recently install a ERR Railsounds Dash-9 sound kit 200-106.

The question I have is how do you control the whistle and bell volume level from a Legacy controller? The sound up and down buttons (1 and 4) control the engine and chatter sound level, but not the whistle and bell. Any thoughts?  Anyone know how to do this?

Thanks Frank

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Edited with updated information on specific TMCC functionality (since ERR is TMCC not Legacy)

Signal sounds- Bell, Whistle, Horn, and announcements are global or master sounds. They are controlled by global or master volume control. Once that is maximum volume, that is all the louder they will ever get. Again, first turn the physical volume potentiometer to maximum on the board or to the level you desire.

Prime mover sounds- AKA engine sounds, those are controlled both globally by master volume and additionally individually by 1 or 4 to (TMCC icons up and down volume control) adjust prime mover sounds in comparison to the global sound volume.

Last edited by Vernon Barry

Also, as I read your question, I wondered if you had set that ID for that loco to at least TMCC vs CAB1 within your Legacy system so you get the more detailed TMCC icons instead of just numbers in CAB1 mode which is default.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUHksEXLbeM

CAB1 mode icons

VS TMCC icons to get more use and function out of your expensive legacy remote.

And at specifically 7:13 into the video explains this and the reasons https://youtu.be/WUHksEXLbeM?t=433

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Last edited by Vernon Barry

Also, as I read your question, I wondered if you had set that ID for that loco to at least TMCC vs CAB1 within your Legacy system so you get the more detailed TMCC icons instead of just numbers in CAB1 mode which is default.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUHksEXLbeM

Vernon,

First of all thanks for the information.  I will try this soon.

I am using a Legacy controller in R100 mode to realize the 100 speed steps. If what you describe above is not comparable I can switch to TMCC but prefer the R100 100 speed steps to the TMCC 32.

Sadly, I do not have a "ERR Railsounds Dash-9 sound kit 200-106." on hand for testing.

I've done several steam installs and also the one diesel I have is the "ERR Diesel RailSounds FM series"

Oops, I misspoke. Honestly sorry, my testing was flawed.

Adjusting volume using the CAB2 volume buttons regardless of aux1 status adjusts prime mover engine sounds.

Bell and Horn are adjusted using the physical volume control on the board, which also then limits the max volume of prime mover.

Again, sorry, I thought it worked the other way.

This forum topic confirms that https://ogrforum.com/...d-control-using-cab2

@Railsounds posted:

On the older TMCC product, the CAB controls the background sounds, chuffing, prime mover, etc. The bell, dialog and whistle are only controlled via the physical volume knob on the locomotive.

In this case, with the ERR rail sounds, that's the volume pot on the board unless you modify and install an external pot.

Last edited by Vernon Barry

You can use R100, that is just the advanced form of TMCC icons.

FYI, the R100 is NOT an advanced version of the TMCC icons, it's a mode all it's own.  It's really the CAB1 relative mode with the TMCC icons and throttle graph.  TMCC mode is an absolute speed step mode, it is different commands and different behavior than the R100 relative step mode.  Even the R100 gives it away R = Relative mode.

I just tried it, and I'm not sure there is a way.  It does not function the same as Legacy.

Confirmed, at least per my testing. You cannot control the whistle and bell (master sounds) via the controller,  only the pot on the board. Disappointed with this.

Is the railsounds commander a newer, more robust version than the railsounds sound kit I have and can it control all volumes from the controller?

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