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im stuck with my lay out i cant come up with anything that feels right im ok with the outside loop but im too busy on the inside The 2nd pic i like the best i wanted to be able to reverse direction i think there can be more  im posting some of what i came up with any help would be appreciatedIMG_9950IMG_9949IMG_9939IMG_9947IMG_9943

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FWIW I certainly don't see much to complain about in the layout on the right. I especially like the yard spurs because I like switching. I imagine the small loop on the right side of the second pic is sidings for businesses. Your carpentry looks really good and I would love to know how you did the lift up section with the hinges. Heck, we should be asking YOU for help. The only thing I would add is give yourself enough room for 054 curves if you haven't already so you can run the really expensive MTH Premier and Legacy engines. I only have room for 036 and that rules out a lot of cool stuff.

The only viable place that I see to make the necessary reversing loop is in the bottom-right-central of the inner loop.  Traveling counter-clockwise from the gate add a left-hand switch aligned to connect via another left-hand switch the left most track of your revering loop complex. Or less wordy...

Jan

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