Hudson dimensions

Dimensions of my K-Line Hudson

Engine length = 13-5/8 inches = 54 feet - 6 inches full scale

Tender length = 9-3/4 inches = 39 feet full scale

Overall length = 23-3/4 inches = 95 feet full scale

MELGAR

Thanks! 

I measured my Williams USRA Pacific. There was a thread a little while ago about this loco, concluding that it was full scale for a Heavy Pacific. Mine measures 11.7”, 46’ 10” which seems to be correct.

PRB 3451 LOA = 23 1/2"

Tender from the front of the floor to the end of the draft box is 10".

John in Lansing, ILL

But, again, your Lionel 5484 Hudson is not a model of any particular prototype. It’s a toy train, with a body that originally was put atop a Berkshire wheel arrangement before the tooling was again modified to create Lionel’s postwar small Hudson.

Hudsons were not exclusive to one body type either. Many railroads adopted the 4-6-4 wheel arrangement, all with locomotives that looked nothing like the NYC J1e Hudson that Lionel is famous for reproducing.

So your locomotive isn’t really semi-scale either. It is strictly a toy train inspired in part by, but not solely on, the J1e Hudson.

Well, yes, I know that. But it’s interesting to compare the dimensions, to see where the compression has been applied. 

The K Line one is visibly different, I believe it’s a J-2c? I haven’t yet found a picture of the actual locomotive, although I have found one of its sisters. 

Right now I’m looking at the semi-scale Berkshire, which seems to be consistently under-scale, rather than compressed? 

Jim is correct....you’re measuring a toy with nothing to compare it too.....Pat

Actually @Jim R. the first loco to get that body was the 226E, which was a 2-6-4, circa 1938.  Minor changes were made to the body between 1946 and 1950 when it once again appeared on the 6-wheel parallel plate chassis.

I've never read anything to support this.  But my theory is that the styling is actually based on an Erie Berkshire.  Lionel didn't have an eight-drivered chassis, so they adapted it to what they had at the time, and fixed their mistake in 1946.  But yes, it's a toy!