In-Sure Push-In Wire Connectors

Not in the same vane but I just discover these not too long ago for house wiring.  Sure beats trying to stuff a grouping of wires into a wall case with large wire nuts.  The fact that you don't have to twist the wires together makes it easier to fold them into the box.

I was also thinking of them for my layout wiring.  

They are great for solid core wire. I would not recommend using them for stranded. That said, I use them around the house, never on the layout.

A better choice would be the Wago 212-415. Lift the lever, insert the wire, close the lever. If you want to disconnect the wire it is as simple as lifting the lever again. I buy these on eBay.

With the push-in connectors, once the wire is in you're done. It's not coming out again.

Updated to show the 5 port version.

 These may work too. Better for stranded wire. 

RSJB18 posted:

 These may work too. Better for stranded wire. 

Those are suitcase connectors right?  I plan on using those to connect my feeder wires to my bus lines. I suppose I could use them for my above scenario as well.

Gilly@N&W posted:

They are great for solid core wire. I would not recommend using them for stranded. That said, I use them around the house, never on the layout.

A better choice would be the Wago 212-414. Lift the lever, insert the wire, close the lever. If you want to disconnect the wire it is as simple as lifting the lever again. I buy these on eBay.

With the push-in connectors, once the wire is in you're done. It's not coming out again.

At $6 for 10x 5-port connectors, I had to grab them. Amazon Prime makes it too easy. Thanks!

Just heard a report that Amazon and Ebay sites just crashed.

RSJB18 posted:

Just heard a report that Amazon and Ebay sites just crashed.

Actually I heard that their stock has gone up significantly since I got into this hobby.

RSJB18 posted:

Just heard a report that Amazon and Ebay sites just crashed.

Deuce posted:

RSJB18 posted:

Just heard a report that Amazon and Ebay sites just crashed.

Actually I heard that their stock has gone up significantly since I got into this hobby.

Always conflicting reports in the news!!  I'm to place my bet on the stock going up since Deuce got into this hobby!!  He wife is seeking counselling for him!!  

Gilly@N&W posted:

They are great for solid core wire. I would not recommend using them for stranded. That said, I use them around the house, never on the layout.

A better choice would be the Wago 212-415. Lift the lever, insert the wire, close the lever. If you want to disconnect the wire it is as simple as lifting the lever again. I buy these on eBay.

With the push-in connectors, once the wire is in you're done. It's not coming out again.

Updated to show the 5 port version.

I am really liking these, Tom!!!  Thanks!!

I use these all over and under the layout. I mount them with either hot glue or Gorrilla Glue. I only have two left out of my box of 25.

Maybe their providers are throttling the connection a bit ´

You have another terminal port open, jump to that.

  European style terminal blocks are small and can be cut into singles for splicings. 

Wagos are great for fast changes.

   I solder before I use "blue suitcase connectors". They tend to cut into the wire as they secure it, hate um. I think I have two total on 6 layouts...used when the power was out  

Gilly@N&W posted:

They are great for solid core wire. I would not recommend using them for stranded. That said, I use them around the house, never on the layout.

A better choice would be the Wago 212-415. Lift the lever, insert the wire, close the lever. If you want to disconnect the wire it is as simple as lifting the lever again. I buy these on eBay.

With the push-in connectors, once the wire is in you're done. It's not coming out again.

Updated to show the 5 port version.

I have used them successfully with stranded wire.  I tin the ends of the stripped wire then snip off a short piece.  This gives me a stiff end to insert into the connector.  

I haven't seen the connectors you show in your photo.  They look like a better choice.   By the way, where can we buy those Wago connectors ?

I buy them on eBay. Shop around, I typically pay around $1 or less for these.

One easy trick with the part number 212-41x. The "x" is the number of poles. In this example 212-415 is a five pole connector. If you want two pole, that would be 212-412.

The "212-" part gets you the connector for 12-28 ga wire.

RSJB18 posted:

 These may work too. Better for stranded wire. 

My layout has about 5000 of these under it.  Work great, never a problem.

Karl

Stranded wire ends can be tinned, making them, essentially, solid, and easier to insert into those connectors.

Gilly@N&W posted:

I buy them on eBay. Shop around, I typically pay around $1 or less for these.

One easy trick with the part number 212-41x. The "x" is the number of poles. In this example 212-415 is a five pole connector. If you want two pole, that would be 212-412.

The "212-" part gets you the connector for 12-28 ga wire.

That's all good Gilly, but the picture in your original post shows "222-415" on the box; not "212-415"

Is there a difference?

Rod

OK did a search for 222-415 and got lots of hits (212-415 got zero hits). Many single size and multi size assortments are offered. Wound up ordering an assortment per the pic below for 47 bucks including free shipping! That works out to an average cost of 33 cents each. Easy choice. 

I was wondering what max current rating these things have. In one pic it shows good for 32 amps, whereas #12 wire is generally recommended for 20 amps max. No problem. Also the second pic below clearly shows that stranded wire CAN in fact be used (whereas an earlier post indicated that stranded wire use is not recommended.)

All good, thanks for the lead.

Rod

Thank you for the additional information, Rod!

Rod Stewart posted"

That's all good Gilly, but the picture in your original post shows "222-415" on the box; not "212-415"

Rod

Oops. My mistake....

Rod Stewart posted:

Also the second pic below clearly shows that stranded wire CAN in fact be used (whereas an earlier post indicated that stranded wire use is not recommended.

The original post was referring to this type of connector. 

Yes, you can tin the wire, essentially turning it into "solid core". This type of connector is well suited to solid core wire. As I said earlier, once you seat the wire in the connector shown above, you're "done". 

Gilly@N&W posted:

Rod Stewart posted:

Also the second pic below clearly shows that stranded wire CAN in fact be used (whereas an earlier post indicated that stranded wire use is not recommended.

The original post was referring to this type of connector. 

Yes, you can tin the wire, essentially turning it into "solid core". This type of connector is well suited to solid core wire. As I said earlier, once you seat the wire in the connector shown above, you're "done". 

Oops, now it's my turn to be mistaken! (Actually I am a frequent-mistaker,if you will! 😜) I erroneously thought it was the 222-415 style you were referring to. Duh. We are on the same page now, and thanks for bringing these to our attention. They look great. Looking forward to getting mine from Amazon. Wonder if they will arrive via drone? 

Rod

I have used both the Ideal style and the Wago lever-lock, on both O gauge trains and house wiring. And possibly some Japanese pre-cursor to the Ideal ones. The Ideal ones can be a real pain in the rear to get out if you change your mind. The Wago ones can be pretty hard to fit in a box if you have a 1960's house with shallow boxes and some sort of modern electronics thing like motion detecting switch, especially if there are two of them (say in the bathroom, a GFCI and a electronic timer for the fan since you are the one that pays the electric bill, not your kids).

I was able to get the Lever Lock to clamp down on some smaller gauge wire that I used to distribute the serial signal from a CAB1L to older SC1 or SC2 connectors, and yet also fit 14 gauge wires that fit nicely in the IC Controls version of a TPC 400.