Info. on K-Line's Aluminum 15" Empire State Express Passenger Car Sets
I saw a recent posting (by PC9850) about the 21” cars, which was very informative. Liked some of the suggestions for pick-up roller problems, finger prints and their solution. I own a couple of sets of the 15” cars, purchased when I belonged to the K-Line Collectors Club. Here are the 3 sets I own and can verify for those of you who have or are looking for them that this information is verified and correct;
K-Line K4670A New York Central Empire State Express 15" 4-PAC
Catalog: 1999 1st Edition, M.S.R.P.: $ 399.95
Aluminum passenger cars include;
K4670-12564 “Thomas E. Dewey” coach car, road number 2564
K4670-15021 “Alonzo B. Cornell” Railway Post Office car, road number 5021
K4670-10054 “Theodore Roosevelt” observation car, road number 54
K4670-10688 “John Jay” diner car, road number 688
K-Line K4670F New York Central Empire State Express 15" 2-PAC
Listed in the Summer of 2001 (K-Line Connections) as a SuperStore Exclusive for $199.95
Aluminum passenger cars include;
K4670-10084 “Levi P. Morton” parlor car
K4670-10686 “George Clinton” diner car
This was a K-Line Collectors Club offering in the Summer of 2001
K-Line K-4670N New York Central Empire State Express 15" 6-PAC
Unknown Listed or Release Date.
M.S.R.P.: $ 629.95, KCC Member Price: $ 566.96.
Aluminum passenger cars include;
K4670-15022 “John A. Dix” RPO baggage car
K4670-10054 “Theodore Roosevelt” observation car
K4670-10689 “Horatio Seymour” diner car
K4670-10082 “Charles E. Hughes” parlor car
K4670-12572 ”David B. Hill” chair car
K4670-12573 “Morgan Lewis” chair car
There were also variations of sets that were released from 1999 till the end of K-Line;
K-Line K4670F New York Central Empire State Express 15" 4-PAC
Listed in the Summer of 2001 (K-Line Connections) as a SuperStore Exclusive for $399.95
Aluminum passenger cars include;
K4670-11705 “Hamilton Fish” coach car
K4670-15022 “John A. Dix” RPO baggage car
K4670-10034 “Martin Van Buren” baggage lounge car
K4670-10054 “Theodore Roosevelt” observation car
K-Line K-4670N New York Central Empire State Express 15" 6-PAC
Catalog: 2004 1st and 2nd Editions, M.S.R.P.: $ 629.95, KCC Member Price: $ 566.96
Aluminum passenger cars include;
K4670-10034 “Martin Van Buren” baggage car
K4670-10054 “Theodore Roosevelt” observation car
K4670-10084 “Levi P. Morton” parlor car
K4670-10686 “George Clinton” diner car
K4670-11705 “Hamilton Fish” coach car
K4670-15022 “John A. Dix” RPO baggage car
Lionel also did an Add-on Set #6-22113 $209.95 Retail ; which included
Grover Cleveland Baggage/Lounge car
&
Herbert Lehman Parlor Car.
Both 15”
I have not seen this set but from I hear, they are exactly the same as the original K-line cars, and from the same molds, just made by Lionel when they bought out/took over K-Line (a Sad day, look what they did with K-line)
As you can see by the above, there was a lot of overlap in the PACs. They always had the Theodore Roosevelt” observation car in the 4 & 6 PACs. The“Martin Van Buren” baggage car & “Hamilton Fish” coach car are the only 2 I am missing. IF anyone comes across either of them or has them for sale (even if it’s in one of the PACs above, please contact me.
Soooooo, if you are looking for or are collecting all 13 cars, you will have to buy a couple of sets that will give you duplicates. Not a bad duplicates to have though.
Hope this help clear things up a bit.