Building layout using Atlas switches. Want to control switches with Legacy Base and Cab 2 remote. Do I need Lionel SC2 to make this happen? Are there other options? 22 switches
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The SC2 is a wireless approach to controlling the switches. You can also use the LCS system, with an ASC2. The ASC2 is the newest switch/accessory controller technology, and has similar requirements for connectivity.
So does the ASc2 allow for wireless control like the SC2. What are advantages of one over another?
Older ASC's were hardwired/daisy chained to the Command Base as was the TPC. These pre-date Lionel branding (IC Controls) . The light twisted pair blue/blue-white wire cable connects to the Command base. Each ASC does (4) switches. The (5) ASC's pictured, (3) center picture, (2) top right, are programmed Switch#1 through Switch #20.
There is not much difference between the two technologies. The "wireless" SC2 is very narrow in advantages, you still need power to the SC2, power for the switch coils, wiring to the switch coils, etc. The wireless is not much value with all that wiring. Still, the ASC2 will require a few more things to connect up, however it is "future proof" to the direction the tech is heading.
Have a look at the link below to understand the big picture of layout control.
Here is an example of using an LCS module controlling the whisker power on my turntable. The LCS modules are distributed on the layout and located where the control is used. No need to "home run" power cables to a central location, dealing with a trunk line of high current wires. Simply placed the module where the control is needed, and allow the relays to control the power locally. Just a Track power feeder wire is needed, which can be from a local tap point as well or back to the central power supply (in my case a ZWL).
In the case of controlling switches, a similar approach can be used. Simply locate an ASC2 by your switch grouping and then tie the coils into the connections on the ASC2. Simply running the COMM cables (daisy chained) from module to module will power the control section of the LCS module and link it into the Legacy base. The ASC2 also reports back the switch position; so it updates the iPad screen with the switch states. If non-derailing is desired, then an STM2 will be needed to keep the iPad in sync. The iPad is optional, but I find it much easier than a hard wired control panel. Easier to make changes, takes a lot less time to implement, and no control panel wiring to implement.
I will be using ASC2s to control the Atlas switches on my layout. Still need to get 3 more to cover all my switches.
sinclair posted:I will be using ASC2s to control the Atlas switches on my layout. Still need to get 3 more to cover all my switches.
Sinclair,
Good choice !! On my previous Layout I used ASC's to control 52 Atlas Switches! Never lost a Switch or had any type of malfunction !!
Fred
Fredstrains posted:sinclair posted:I will be using ASC2s to control the Atlas switches on my layout. Still need to get 3 more to cover all my switches.
Sinclair,
Good choice !! On my previous Layout I used ASC's to control 52 Atlas Switches! Never lost a Switch or had any type of malfunction !!
Fred
That's the main reason, so I don't burn out a switch motor. I'll either reach over and throw it by hand or use the Cab remote. After reading the instructions on the ASC2s I knew that was the way to go since I had Legacy, and the VL BB came with the wall wart and cable needed to start using the LCS system.
So to the OP, use ASC2s as they are being currently made and supported by Lionel.
Ok, if I go with the ASC2s what else will I need to control Atlas switches? Do the ASC2s come with cable to connect to Legacy base or is that something you have to buy extra? Are there any other components needed?
Thanks
Bobby Cox
Bobby,
There are numerous videos on YOU TUBE showing how to hook up ATLAS O switches using Lionel Legacy and the ASC2 or other Lionel switch/accessory controllers by Mike Reagan and others.
2018 Lionel catalog shows that cables are sold separately. Check the catalog.
I'd suggest reading the manual, which can be had for free on the LCS website. It has very clear instructions on setting up the LCS system, as well as a section just for Atlas turnouts.
