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Hello, How many Lionel 148-100 switches do I need to operate the Lionel 350 Transfer Table with one Extension? I only have one 148-100 switch. Do I need another one? I have the required 8 lock-ons, 8 Fiber pins, (8) O gauge rail adapters, 8 adapter brackets, and (4) 6-32 screws. Do I have what I need to get this running? Obviously, I have the original yellow controller button thing with red light on it. My transfer table has red light on top of yellow building. Any help with be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!!

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The transfer table extension goes on only one way. The pins in the rails that the transfer rolls on are installed by Lionel so it can not go on backwards. Do not modify these pins. In addition to those pins these are two flat phos bronze straps, one on each side, that make the ground connection.  That is all that is needed to connect the two tables together, but it will work better if you can put a couple of screws in it to attached it to a table. The wires coming out of the controller are designed to connect to the table rails. The table has letters stamped into it to indicate which wire goes to each rail.

As for the track connections to the table, the table connects the outside (common) rails. However, there is no connection to the center rail. You will have to run a wire to each stub track center rail to get the locomotives to run on them. The use of a switch for these stub tracks depends on how you are going to use the table. After a loco is run on to a stub track it can be shut off using the e-unit or with command control. That way no switches are needed. If this is not how you are going to use the table, you need a switch for each stub track. Otherwise all the locos are going to be trying to run at the same time.  

For best operation use only straight track with the transfer table. The alignment between the table and the stub tracks is not real good and you will have a lot of derailments if curves are used.  The transfer table instructions contain a lot of information and should be read.

Okay, I think I got it. Here is picture of my Layout plans. So, I have to have 8 #148-100 switches, correct??  If so, that will be tough as you know those dwarf signal switches are impossible to find. I am lucky to have one. Any other way I can mock on a # 148-100 switch?? Thank you so much as you have saved my life with this 350 transfer table. I have the controller with original black, yellow, and red wire leads, the wires have never been used or stripped off and have the pin thype things that I guess slip into the 3 transfer table rails. Now, as for the bulbs. The 2 lights should light up as the transfer table is in line with track and ready for locomotive to enter transfer table, correct? Does the transfer table only work with steam locomotives??  I think my Santa Fe F3 AA Units will be too long to fit. The 350 is about 17 inches wide give or take an inch. I will have to test fit all my locomotives and see which ones will fit on 350.  I have ordered some parts for my 350. I ordered two #012R---- 2 pin 6V bulbs (for yellow building & Controller). Ordered 4 more rail adapters and 4 more track brackets (for extension). I have enough of those 6-32 screws, I think I have 4. I think just the 350 requires one, guessing the extension requires one more, sound right to you??  As far as parts, I have what I need I believe. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.  Perimeter Postwar Layout 14x12

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Okay, I think I got it. Here is picture of my Layout plans. So, I have to have 8 #148-100 switches, correct??  If so, that will be tough as you know those dwarf signal switches are impossible to find. I am lucky to have one. Any other way I can mock on a # 148-100 switch?? Thank you so much as you have saved my life with this 350 transfer table. I have the controller with original black, yellow, and red wire leads, the wires have never been used or stripped off and have the pin thype things that I guess slip into the 3 transfer table rails. Now, as for the bulbs. The 2 lights should light up as the transfer table is in line with track and ready for locomotive to enter transfer table, correct? Does the transfer table only work with steam locomotives??  I think my Santa Fe F3 AA Units will be too long to fit. The 350 is about 17 inches wide give or take an inch. I will have to test fit all my locomotives and see which ones will fit on 350.  I have ordered some parts for my 350. I ordered two #012R---- 2 pin 6V bulbs (for yellow building & Controller). Ordered 4 more rail adapters and 4 more track brackets (for extension). I have enough of those 6-32 screws, I think I have 4. I think just the 350 requires one, guessing the extension requires one more, sound right to you??  As far as parts, I have what I need I believe. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.  Perimeter Postwar Layout 14x12

Not to detract from the purpose of the thread, but I want to say what a beautiful PostWar-style layout that is!

Peter

The 364 C switch is more common and probably easier to use than the 148 switch.   The way Lionel uses the 148 switch is it selects between adjacent tracks, so you would only need 4 of them.   The light on top of the building lights up when the tracks are lined up.  I do not recall what the light in the controller does.   The light on top of the building is a red #19 lamp.  The lamp in the controller is a #12 lamp.   As for your F3 set being to long, a transfer table is like a turn table. Equipment on the storage track directly across the table access track is not limited by the length of the table.  Just run directly across the table to access that track.

On the wiring, black goes to A, red to B, and yellow to C.   The screws used to attach the rail adaptors are 6 X 3/8“ self tapping flathead screws. You probably could use a 6-32 Screws if you run a tap in the holes and put threads in them.  

Got a major problem....need help!!! I have the correct screws to mount the track adapters to the 350 transfer table. I am using 6x3/8 self tapping screws, they are pan head I believe, not flat head. But, when I went to screw it down, the screw when right through the track adapter screw hole. What do I do???  Do I need a washer? Please get back to me as soon as possible as I want this up an running for my nephew.  Thanks!!

The transfer  table has a double wound field on the motor. When one field wire is energized it goes one way. When the other field wire is energized it goes the other way. These two field wires are energized by the two outside rails on the table trackway.  These rails should be connected to the black and yellow wires from the controller. Remove the transfer table from it’s track and check that the rails are getting energized using a volt meter or light bulb. Make sure that the rails are clean and that the rail contacts are making good contact. If this all checks out, look at the terminal board by the motor and make sure one field wire is connected to each of the two outside contacts. Then check that power is getting from the side rails to the terminal board terminals. If power is getting to the terminal board and the field wires are properly contacted, the problem maybe with the motor. To check the motor, contact one of the outside terminals at a time with a wire going to the transformer hot connection.   The transfer table would need to be connected to the common transformer connection. The motor should go one way on one contact and the other on the other contact. If this is not happening, there may be a problem with the motor.

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