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This was a Lionel American Flyer U33c Erie Lackawanna model 6-48142 from the first run of these in 2009. I picked it up very cheap with the intent to re-paint it to one of my preferred roadnames/schemes. I found prototype photos of some SCL/LN U36b's that are nearly identical in design and then went searching for decals. As is often the case, these did not exist in S scale, but I found a great HO set offered by Highball Graphics. Highball agreed to make a custom S scale run of these waterslide decals for me. I airbrushed the shell in L&N gray from Badger Model Flex and spray painted the truck sideframes and fuel tank in Rust-Oleum Camouflage Earth Brown. Unlike the U33c's from the 2012 run, this model cannot be updated with an RCDR receiver board and thus made DCC compatible. So I decided to install a TCS WOW 501 for Diesel decoder with hopes that I could use this to control Lionel's smoke unit. Alas it worked. I also installed all new lighting for cab, markers, headlights, tail-lights, and number boards. Interestingly, in the video the lights appear to flicker; however, in person they do not. I have experienced this phenomenon making videos from my phone previously. Then came decaling which included making number boards through trial and error by using Microsoft Word and printing on plan white copy paper. Then masking the windows and lights so I could spray it with coats of Tamiya TS-80 flat clear. Lastly, came weathering using pan pastels and chalk power followed by more Tamiya flat clear.

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@Chuck K posted:

This was a Lionel American Flyer U33c Erie Lackawanna model 6-48142 from the first run of these in 2009....

Chuck, Superb work on your part!  Looks really great.

Did you use the scale wheelsets Lionel produce for these?  I remember the first run had different gearing that caused the locos to run faster than the following runs.  Did you find the TCS controller helped in that regard?  The quality of the sound is quite nice.  Did you use a Tang Band speaker or was it something else?

Thanks, Mike A.



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Fantastic "new" engine. I assume the smoke unit is now on-off only, which is fine for me. A key for DCC conversions is the coupler change, was that difficult?  Seems to be no way to fire the electrocouplers in DCC.

If the LED's are flickering in the videos that suggests the LED's are getting rectified but not filtered DC. Need a capacitor to smooth out the waveform.

@Mikeaa posted:

Thanks. I have the high rail wheels on it in these pics. The Flyonel 6 axle diesels do better on my layout with high rail wheels. But I have a set of scale wheels for this that I will be putting on when I run it on our Houston club's layout.

Yes, most currently produced decoders will fix a speed issue in my opnion. You just need to play with the speed curve CV's.

I did not use Tang Band because their speakers are 4 ohm. The decoders I use all require 8 ohm. I have on two occasions used 2 Tang Bands in series to achieve 8 ohms, but that takes a huge amount of space and would not work in this U boat. I have only done that in AM E8's. I used a Soundtraxx 20X35mm 2 watt speaker in this one.  I am a big fan of their speakers.

@AmFlyer posted:

Fantastic "new" engine. I assume the smoke unit is now on-off only, which is fine for me. A key for DCC conversions is the coupler change, was that difficult?  Seems to be no way to fire the electrocouplers in DCC.

If the LED's are flickering in the videos that suggests the LED's are getting rectified but not filtered DC. Need a capacitor to smooth out the waveform.

Thanks Tom. These TCS 501 decoders synchronize the smoke fan with the RPM's represented by the prime mover sounds. Every time it notches up a gear you will see the smoke indicate this. Very cool feature which is comparable to timing the smoke with the chuff in a steamer.

The scale coupler installation is easy on these as they, along with the SD70's and ES44's, come with a mounting bracket for the kadee boxes.

As for the flicker, there is none to the naked eye. For some reason the camera on my Samsung records a flicker on many of my DCC loco lights, but live I can't see any.

@AmFlyer posted:

You have mentioned the TCS WOW decoders in earlier conversions. They seem to work well in the Lionel engines with smoke units.

They do. They also work well with the MTH smoke units. I used that combination in an AM Pacific installation a couple of years ago.  The 501's are the ones with this smoke control capability and they are big decoders, much bigger than my typical installation. Still much smaller than a TMCC installation though.

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